From: krw on
In article <elec7v$8ss_004(a)s907.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <MPG.1fe3529183897338989dc2(a)news.individual.net>,
> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:

<snip>

> > I mentioned before
> >that we're bailing out of NE (taxes). The carpet is 20YO (original
> >contractor's special) and in pretty poor condition, even though we
> >don't wear shoes in the house. Instead of offering a "carpet
> >allowance" in the price, I decided to just do it. It makes
> >painting much easier too.
>
> That's true. I'll bet your painting rate is higher than mine.
> I manage to do about 4sq.ft. at a time. Then rest for three days.

Once I get started I can go pretty fast (but the Usenet is more
fun;). Years ago I bought professional tools (extensions, rollers,
etc.) which help a lot.

> What do you do with the old carpet? My mother's been cutting
> up some old stuff and using them as throw rugs.

Take it to the dump. I cut it into 2' strips, roll it up, and tie
it off with duct tape. I leave a "handle" of duct tape so I can
grab four or five strips to carry out to my truck. I rented a
storage unit so I'm putting it in there until I get it all up.
Then I'll borrow a large truck from a friend to take it to a
transfer station that charges by the ton ($110 - $35 minimum)
rather than the local one ($45/cu.yd.).

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <45797ED3.CE729C4A(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> What are you going to do when a president abuses that power
>> >> by declaring an emergency which puts the country into a permanent
>> >> state of a dictatorship?
>> >
>> >GWB hasn't gone that far *yet* !
>>
>> Right. Wait until next term.
>
>You think he'll get a 3rd ???

There are at least 2 more Bushes.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <eleg5t$8ss_019(a)s907.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <elbt7n$m8m$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
[....]
>>Predictablely, you are about to make up a bunch more stuff to try and
>>blame Clinton
>
>Who was blaming Clinton.

You and the republicans were, and still are, blaming Clinton for
everything under the sun, when every right thinking person in America
knows that the republicans are at fault for everything including tooth
decay.

> Some of the violence going on
>in the world wasn't his fault. A bit of the violence that will
>go on is going to be attributed to him because he didn't deal
>with the problem and work on mess prevention.

In his second term he had a republican congress to deal with. During his
entire presidency, he had the other branches of government to try to bring
along. There were always republicans there toiling away at trying to
bring on the end of the world.

>
>>for because you just can't stand to admit that we were far
>>better off with him in office.
>
>No, we were not. His trade off was always against national
>security.

No, he did not trade off national security. He did a far better job of
keeping America than for example Bush or Nixon. He did, or at least tried
to do, everything needed to make America safe and prosperous. He was
opposed at every turn by the republicans. The republicans wish to destroy
american. They hate us for our freedoms.

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From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:elefv7$8ss_018(a)s907.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <A_OdnUMqWa0ZOOTYnZ2dnUVZ8siknZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:elbl6e$8ss_003(a)s848.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <ddudnfxoXvqG1OXYRVnysQ(a)pipex.net>,
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message
>>>>news:el991p$qc5$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu...
>>>>> In article <el6i3f$8qk_002(a)s867.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>><snip for brevity>
>>>>
>>>>>>So? That's how you do this buying your house biz if you
>>>>>>are going to take out a loan. You can also take out a
>>>>>>loan that includes the down payment. Is it now a sin
>>>>>>to save for the down payment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/BAH
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but it means young people have to put off buying a house while
>>>>> they
>>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>>Which maintains the circle. While the young people are trying to save,
>>>>they
>>>>have to pay rent. While they try to save house prices go up, rent goes
>>>>and
>>>>their savings become a lower percentage of the deposit.
>>>
>>> If you don't want to pay rent, then don't rent. One of my
>>> brothers started out with a trailer.
>>>
>>
>>"Let them eat cake."
>>
>>Where did he get the trailer from?
>
> He bought it.
>
>> Where did he park it?
>
> The place he bought it from.
>
>>All things which
>>are a privilege not a right.
>
> He paid for that property. He used the money he and his wife
> earned to pay for that property. This has nothing to do
> with privilege nor rights. It has everything to do with
> self-sufficiency and no expectations for a handout.

And we live in the same loop. He needed to be able to get enough money
together to buy the trailer, and proably pay ground rent for it's storage.

No one is saying there is an expectation of a "handout," that is just
another strawman you are using to divert the topic into something you can
rant about with out addressing the fundamental facts.

The problem remains that your brother and his wife had to save up enough
money to buy the trailer. Where did they live while they were saving?

Your "solutions" so far, have not been solutions. You really do think that
people who are too poor to eat bread should eat cake.

>> You continue to make all manner of assumptions
>>about things _everyone_ should do to enable them to live in a [Marxist]
>>style _you_ find acceptable. Insane.
>
> For those who are lurking...another way to get started owning
> one's home is to rent the house you want to buy. Part of that
> rent is used towards the purchase price of the house.

Really? If someone who rents one of my houses wanted to buy it, they
wouldn't get a discount for the rent they have paid.

I would love to learn more about people who let you rent houses of them and
then use that rental money as a deposit should you choose to buy it.

Your Marxist ideas are still insane.


From: Ken Smith on
In article <elecra$8ss_007(a)s907.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <elbu77$m8m$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
[.....]
>>I do know how many accountants vs how many other folks there are in
>>several companies. They get by with only a small fraction of their labor
>>force doing accounting. I also know from hearsay, that only a tiny
>>fraction of the time the accountants spend is related to changes in the
>>law. The bulk of the time is in keeping track of things like hours
>>worked. In a company of 50 people (give or take 10 over the year), one
>>accountant and one office manager, did all the accounting work. Almost
>>all of that time was dealing with internal problems that had nothing to do
>>with new or even old laws.
>
>Those people use code written by other people. I wasn't suggesting
>you talk to the administrators but to the person who has to do
>the code.

What code there was, was purchased from another company and was at least a
few years old the last time I knew for sure the age. In the one case, the
accountant mostly used a spreadsheet. Do we need to talk to the writers
of spreadsheets?


>>Perhaps you have been listening to sob stories from some accountant or
>>perhaps you have been hearing the words of one who is trying to increase
>>their empire or perhaps you are just hearing voices in your head.
>
>Not an accountant. My exposure to accountants are limited to
>what happens during probate. I was astonished how much trust
>they put into random downloads of software.

They assume that programs written by reasonable people do what they claim.
I use OpenOffice quite a bit. I rarely question the accuracy of the math
done in the spread sheet. There are times when I go back and check to
make sure that my sequence of operations didn't make the important part
scurry off the LS end, but this if fairly rare.


>My sources are people who did do the coding work. Since you
>have resorted to dinigration, I guess you aren't curious about
>how complicated and how costly that part of trade is.

I was exactly curious enough to check to see how small of a fraction of
the entire cost of running a businesses it would be or at least set an
upper bound on it. When I found that the cost of writing the new code had
to be a trivially small component of the overall cost, I stopped worrying
about it.


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