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From: Eeyore on 12 Jan 2007 13:19 unsettled wrote: > T Wake wrote: > > > > I agree, the conflict is far from simple. It is not a war either, therefore > > invoking "war powers" is dishonest. > > For the US it is the only tool currently available. I believe > UK has a strong history of dealing with Irish terrorism in > precisely the same way. Absolutely wrong. Graham
From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Jan 2007 13:52 MassiveProng wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:07:34 +0000, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > > > >You do realsie that but for Bush's idiotic 'axis of evil' comment, the Iranians would > >likely never have voted in the loony Ahmadinejad. They're already pissed off at him but > >everytime Bush opens his ignorant gob Ahmadinejad's popularity goes up again ! > > > You obviously haven't seen the 1.3 million rabble rouser gatherings > with the waves and waves of death threats for the rest of the world, > and the military marches with the missile parades. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070112/ts_nm/greece_explosion_dc_13 -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Eeyore on 12 Jan 2007 14:19 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > MassiveProng wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > > > > > > >You do realsie that but for Bush's idiotic 'axis of evil' comment, the Iranians would > > >likely never have voted in the loony Ahmadinejad. They're already pissed off at him > > >but everytime Bush opens his ignorant gob Ahmadinejad's popularity goes up again ! > > > > > You obviously haven't seen the 1.3 million rabble rouser gatherings > > with the waves and waves of death threats for the rest of the world, > > and the military marches with the missile parades. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070112/ts_nm/greece_explosion_dc_13 Your point is what exactly ? Yes, the USA is unpopular across the entire world. Graham
From: David Brown on 12 Jan 2007 14:49 On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:26:08 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > MassiveProng wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >MassiveProng wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >> >> >> There is. It's called the Worldwide Struggle Against Terrorism, >> >> > >> >> >It isn't worldwide. It's certainly no longer called a 'war on terror' in the UK >> >> >for one thing. >> >> >> >> Tell that to the Somalians. Those in power there now are certainly >> >> on the "war against terror" bandwagon, and obviously countless other >> >> countries you are unaware of. You are unaware of so much... >> > >> >Have you forgotten already that there are always at least 2 sides in every dispute ? >> >One man's 'terrorist' is another's 'freedom fighter'. >> >> Are you trying to say that the invading Islamic factions that over >> ran Somalia deserved to be there as they were "fighting" for "their >> freedom"???? >> >> They were not fighting. They were raping and pillagin', son. > > I'm not familiar with the current situation there really. It's been a disaster area for > so long you just end up mentally 'giving up' over the place. I was making a more general > point. > Just to update you on Somalia - most of Somalia's population are at least nominally Muslim. Some of them got together and formed a series of Islamic courts across the country, which brought a certain amount of stability and justice to the anarchy in the country. They are aiming to turn the country into an Islamic republic - they see a strong religious force as the only way to get the country together again. Most of the population are wary of having a theocracy, but see it as better than anarchy. Meanwhile, in the west of the country, there is the "provisional government", formed by the nominally Christian minority in the country. They are backed by the nominally Christian Etheopian government (I say "nominally Christian", as these guys have as much Christian spirit as Bush). They have virtually no support from the population of Somalia, but have plenty of support from USA and the west, being the "good" Christians rather than the "evil" Muslims. Their actions are ignored by the USA - but by claiming to be on the side of "freedom", fighting the war against "terrorists" and "Islamists", they get the financial and military support they want. > >> Do you know what the word "pirate" means? They were not considered >> military combatants either. They were immediate targets for death, >> and considered rogue criminal, despite any hardware they were sailing >> in/with... military or otherwise. > > I'd say today's terrorists are more similar to the pirates of old ( or today ) than any > army. Neither has or ever had any allegiance to any country or government for example. > > > Graham
From: Lloyd Parker on 12 Jan 2007 10:44
In article <C1CD047B.5492E%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On 1/12/07 3:34 AM, in article eo8dbl$69v$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu, "Lloyd >Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote: > >> In article <qe6eq25v7vr2l8gqjagd38781phaa5v4kq(a)4ax.com>, >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:15:18 +0000, Eeyore >>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >>> >>>> >>>> The simple answer is that the terrorists are criminals and what's required >> is >>>> international *police* action to stop it. >>> >>> >>> There is. It's called the Worldwide Struggle Against Terrorism, >>> >>> AND IT IS A WAR. >> >> The US didn't call it a war when it took on the Barbary Coast pirates. This >> is analogous. > >That was our Coast Guard activity. > >Don > We were guarding the coast of North Africa? (That _is_ where the Barbary Coast is.) |