From: jmfbahciv on 13 Jan 2007 07:59 In article <JNednet0bbF_kDXYnZ2dnUVZ8q6nnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eo85rh$8qk_007(a)s788.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <fJmdnb3Ot8NuEDrYnZ2dnUVZ8t-nnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eo7uvq$8ss_001(a)s788.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <45A6D193.A694451(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You need to turn on your modem's sound. You'll hear all kinds of >>>>>> mating sounds. You can also tell if the ISP you're calling has >>>>>> a headache and will cause comm eruptions. >>>>> >>>>>I used to do that. >>>>> >>>>>With broadband it's not necessary. >>>> >>>> <shrug> I was in the biz; we used sound pattern differences for cues >>>> to prevent messes. >>> >>>Time and technology have developed significantly in the last few decades. >>> >>> >> But mess detection methods haven't changed much. Changes in >> sound patterns means changes in behaviour. If one then >> experiences problems, you can watch for the same sound >> patterns and see if they correlate to the same bug. > >With broadband there is no "sound" to listen to. This is like trying to tune >in a digital television with analog methods. No one can hook up a speaker and listen? <snip> /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Jan 2007 08:00 In article <eo87pn$nji$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <eo7v28$8ss_002(a)s788.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>In article <eo6tdr$vsa$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>In article <45A6D193.A694451(a)hotmail.com>, >>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> You need to turn on your modem's sound. You'll hear all kinds of >>>>> mating sounds. You can also tell if the ISP you're calling has >>>>> a headache and will cause comm eruptions. >>>> >>>>I used to do that. >>>> >>>>With broadband it's not necessary. >>> >>>You also need much better hearing. >> >>Why? I've never met broadband. It's sound pattern differences that >>predict that some behaviour will change. > >The frequency content extends well past the 20KHz that the human ear is >limited to. In DSL, there is no real signal at all down where audio band >modems run. There isn't any way to hang a converter or something on and make patterns into sounds? How about lights? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Jan 2007 08:25 In article <45A7CD21.A7E8F1C0(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >MassiveProng wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >You mean Iran ? Simply not proven. >> >> >> >> >> >> You see... there you go... and you had almost made it completely >> >> >> out of the retard barrel. >> >> >> >> >> >> I guess it's in your genes. You'll wash up on shore... Whale on the >> >> >> beach. >> >> > >> >> >You have some *PROOF* ? I do mean proof not conjecture. With regard to >> >> >conjecture I'd agree it's very likely they don't have an interest but >> >> >they're*way* off being able to do anything. >> >> >> >> So you are willing to wait until Iran bombs somebody before >> >> you will believe that 1. they have the bombs >> > >> >They don't have nukes. >> >> How do you know this? > >Common sense ! Look at what was needed for the Manhattan project. What did the Manhattan project have that Iran does not? Do not make the deadly mistake that these people are uneducated and do not know how to acquire technology and knowledge. > > >> >> and 2. they will use them. >> > >> >They'd be mad to use them offensively. >> >> In your opinion, they will be mad. In their opinion, they >> will be good obedient Muslims. >> >> This is what the conflict is about. > >Do elaborate ! I have been. You have been ignoring every thing I wrote because none of it fits into your world view of how things should be. > > >> >> I suggest you write them a letter and volunteer >> >> to be their first target. I personally prefer mess prevention >> >> rather than cleaning it up. >> > >> >You could start with Israel and Pakistan in that case. Since you're supplying >> >nuclear material to India I don't suppose you fancy cleaning up that one ? >> >> When did I supply nuclear material to India? Be specific w.r.t. >> dates. > >The USA has signed an agreement with India to supply nuclear fuel for their >reactors. Ah, for their reactors. Your sentence above hinted that the US was supplying bomb materials. And the agreement is a recent agreement. Why was that agreement made? /BAH
From: Eeyore on 13 Jan 2007 08:33 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> You need to turn on your modem's sound. You'll hear all kinds of > >>>>>> mating sounds. You can also tell if the ISP you're calling has > >>>>>> a headache and will cause comm eruptions. > >>>>> > >>>>>I used to do that. > >>>>> > >>>>>With broadband it's not necessary. > >>>> > >>>> <shrug> I was in the biz; we used sound pattern differences for cues > >>>> to prevent messes. > >>> > >>>Time and technology have developed significantly in the last few decades. > >>> > >> But mess detection methods haven't changed much. Changes in > >> sound patterns means changes in behaviour. If one then > >> experiences problems, you can watch for the same sound > >> patterns and see if they correlate to the same bug. > > > >With broadband there is no "sound" to listen to. This is like trying to tune > >in a digital television with analog methods. > > No one can hook up a speaker and listen? No indeed you can't. ADSL works on *radio* frequencies. You can monitor connection progress on your router's status page of course. Graham
From: T Wake on 13 Jan 2007 08:35
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eoal14$8ss_002(a)s914.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <eo87us$nji$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>In article <eo85rh$8qk_007(a)s788.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>[...] >>>Sheesh. The invention of ink didn't change the words used. >> >>Actually it did. The printing press did it even more so. How words were >>spelled, the ones used and to some degree how they were pronounced were >>all changed by the fact that the written word can be transported over long >>distances. > > I said "the words used". Which, I would have though, was covered with the "spelled" phrase? |