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From: jmfbahciv on 15 Jan 2007 07:43 In article <eodof8$gus$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <eodeen$8qk_004(a)s849.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >[....] >>Anybody who insists that the extremists are criminals. To treat >>their actions as criminal, you must arrest and put them on trial. >>This implies that the arresting officiers have jurisdiction wherever >>and whenever these extremists reside. This approach requires a >>global police force that is not answerable to any single nation. > >No, you have it wrong. You don't need a global police force to do it. >Criminals who have crossed borders are dealt with all the time. If >someone commits a murder in the US and then runs to England, he is not >safe. This is how it would be for the terrorists if they were called the >criminals they are. > >When you call it a "war" you make them soldiers. When they are soldiers >in a cause against you the other governments can't arrest them. When you >stop calling it "war" and start calling it "crime", other governments can >arrest them. This is part of why calling it a war is such an awful idea. > But nobody was arresting them, especially in Europe. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 15 Jan 2007 07:50 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > > >So what do you expect from this 20K more troops? It isn't enough extra to > >make a difference so it must be symbolic or political. Please explain how > >they make anything better. > > I don't know if 20K more will do the job. I do know that the key > is to get the Iraqi middle class back and working. Working where ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 15 Jan 2007 08:06 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > > >When you call it a "war" you make them soldiers. When they are soldiers > >in a cause against you the other governments can't arrest them. When you > >stop calling it "war" and start calling it "crime", other governments can > >arrest them. This is part of why calling it a war is such an awful idea. > > > But nobody was arresting them, especially in Europe. We are now. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Jan 2007 08:19 In article <45AB7C5E.4BB0A12(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> > >> >When you call it a "war" you make them soldiers. When they are soldiers >> >in a cause against you the other governments can't arrest them. When you >> >stop calling it "war" and start calling it "crime", other governments can >> >arrest them. This is part of why calling it a war is such an awful idea. >> > >> But nobody was arresting them, especially in Europe. > >We are now. And then letting them go because of legal loop holes. This is utter nonsense. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 15 Jan 2007 08:30
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >> > > >> >When you call it a "war" you make them soldiers. When they are soldiers > >> >in a cause against you the other governments can't arrest them. When you > >> >stop calling it "war" and start calling it "crime", other governments can > >> >arrest them. This is part of why calling it a war is such an awful idea. > >> > > >> But nobody was arresting them, especially in Europe. > > > >We are now. > > And then letting them go because of legal loop holes. Not at all. A big terrorism trial starts to day. Six men planned "murderous suicide bombings" on public transport in London on 21 July 2005, a court has heard. The prosecution alleges they were involved in an "extremist Muslim plot" targeting the capital - 14 days after the "carnage" of the 7 July bombings. Muktar Ibrahim, Manfo Asiedu, Hussein Osman, Yassin Omar, Ramzi Mohammed and Adel Yahya all deny conspiracy to murder and cause explosions. The trial at Woolwich Crown Court in London could last up to four months. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6261899.stm Graham |