From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45A92E5F.C38939DE(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We certainly gathered tons of information about the trafficing.
>> >> I don't why that can't be converted to a sound rather than
>> >> a picture on the TTY.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if anybody put a speaker on an ethernet. I'll have
>> >> to ask.
>> >
>> > Does your hearing go to 10 Mhz, 100 MHz or even 1 GHz? Can you find
>> >a speaker that goes that high? Data over ethernet is in small fixed
>> >length packets and the higher the bandwidth, the less time it takes to
>> >send a packet. A cable modem has transmit and receive LEDs that flicker
>> >with each packet, but even an online audio or video stream can have
>> >several seconds between bursts of data packets. Its a completely
>> >different game.
>>
>> I'd probably assign a set of sounds to each layer. I'd have recall
>> the specs to figure out how to assign sound within each layer.
>
>And how is that going to work with packets ?

Why do I need to get to that detail? The minute you start
looking at the fine detail, you change the behaviour. I don't
want to do that. I do want to know differences in behaviour
patteners. Stop thinking so literally.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45A930BF.319811A6(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Can you hook a speaker up to an ethernet cable?
>>
>> Technically yes you can. You can also plumb it to the kitchen sink. Both
>> are about as useful.
>
>Be careful what you wish for.
>
>One day the kitchen sink may have an IP address.

Toilets already have computer gear.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <o57hq2hgacs104ki37lf6fd2d8lgjjulru(a)4ax.com>,
Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:37:27 -0000, "T Wake"
><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message
>>news:l6hfq2hq3pl65gn8pceon4g8l0fbhvc9r3(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:17:34 -0000, "T Wake"
>>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"MassiveProng" <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>>message news:qe6eq25v7vr2l8gqjagd38781phaa5v4kq(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:15:18 +0000, Eeyore
>>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The simple answer is that the terrorists are criminals and what's
>>>>>>required
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>international *police* action to stop it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is. It's called the Worldwide Struggle Against Terrorism,
>>>>>
>>>>> AND IT IS A WAR.
>>>>
>>>>No it isn't.
>>>>
>>>>You do not declare war on things like terrorism any more than you declare
>>>>war on poverty or childhood obesity. It sounds good, it makes a nice
>>>>rallying call and fits soundbites. But it is not a declaration of war.
>>>>
>>>>Unless of course I missed the bit where the declaration was made official
>>>>by
>>>>a duly recognised authority.
>>>
>>> It's rhetoric from the administration with no other purpose at all
>>> than to give it an excuse it can use to justify anything and
>>> everything it does without having to make a rational argument to
>>> anyone about it. The really sad thing is that the rhetoric actually
>>> seems to gell with far too many here in the US.
>>
>>Aren't there certain conditions which have to be met before a "war" can be
>>declared by the US?
>
>You know? I had thought so in my earlier years. Honestly believed in
>the idea I was taught, that Congress declares wars. Of course,
>reality has a way of making one more circumspect about this issue.

I'm starting to think whether the Constitution has assumed that
the only kinds of war can be the European-style in which the
conflict is clearly nation against nation. I'm wondering if
any Constitutional scholars have thought about a war that can't
be nation against nation.

<reluctant snip>

/BAH
From: Phil Carmody on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
> In article <CsGdncRAvqXihDTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2mnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> You cannot monitor what is going back and forth over the line
> _while you are working online_.

Of course you can. You just need some kind of tap on the line.

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <eobnlh$oor$2(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <eo834m$8qk_002(a)s788.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <eo5kh2$gtn$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>In article <eo5c66$8qk_002(a)s814.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>[....]
>>>>They are not oblivious; these people are still thinking in
>>>>the old ways.
>>>
>>>No, they are simply unwilling to allow the wrong word to be applied to the
>>>situation. If you control the language, you control the debate. By
>>>calling something "a war", you are claiming certain things are true about
>>>it. If the thing being called "a war" doesn't really have those
>>>characteristics, using the term can lead to confusion.
>>
>>Then me a word to use that describes the fight to the death
>>between two civilizations. I call this war.
>
>I'm sure there is someone in a rubber room somewhere that calls a peanut
>butter sandwich a "lemming". This doesn't mean that we should expect
>them to start jumping off cliffs. The situation we have is nothing like a
>"war". You can claim it is a "new kind of war" but this just gets you
>into expecting your peanut butter sandwiches to start jumping. The
>stuggle against the Mafia is a far-far better model for what you claim we
>have.

No it is not at all like Mafia conflicts. The Mafia is firmly
entrenched in Western civilization styles of living and conducting
business.

>
>Others believe that the threat from the Islamic extremists has been
>massively overblown. They remember global communism adn the threat it
>was.

Which was still based on WEstern civilization without the capitalistic
economic laws.

> It was a far greater threat than the terrorists and yet we survived.

You keep evaluating these extremists in Western civilization terms;
this is a fatal assumption.
>
>
>
>> It is European-style
>>thinking that has limited the description between two countries.
>
>No, it is the real world that applies this limitation on the use of the
>word. When a word serves only to increase the confusion of the reader
>about what you mean, it is time to stop using that word.

THEN GIVE ME A BETTER WORD AND I'LL USE IT. So far you don't have
a word.

A war is what happens when no political agreement can be achieved.

Because you don't have a word to describe this disagreement between
civilizations, you assume the problem doesn't exist. This is
illogical and dangereous.


>
>>Islam didn't have the notion of nationalism until recently and
>>they still don't quite use this heirarchy for classification of
>>people groups. Until you understand this,
>
>This is another thing that you assume on no basis.

Do they have a word for nation? If so, when was it created?

>
>> I guess you will
>>continue to ignore that this war[or whatever] exists. It is
>>not a simple conflict.
>
>You bet it isn't simple. It is not a major threat to the US.

If you keep saying this loud enough, you won't have to deal
with cleaning up the mess because you'll be dead.

> It is also
>not a war.

It is not a war as you define war. You definition is a Western
civilization definition that was defined based on how
Europe conducted their political and economic disputes.

<snip broken record>

/BAH