Jihad needs scientists
in [Design]
|
From: unsettled on 14 Jan 2007 14:04 John Fields wrote: snip <dumb donkey's stupidity> > If you do, then your deliberate omission of any reference to the > UK's role in starting the trouble in Iran shows you up for the > stinking liar that you really are. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax > > gives a pretty clear picture of what happened, with BP's greed being > the fuse. > --- I think they did the right thing. Don't take away someone's property without fair compensation. Without Anglo's money and skills, Iran would have remained as primitive as it had always been and likely still would be. Iran's greed is what ignited the fuse.
From: unsettled on 14 Jan 2007 14:07 Ken Smith wrote: > In article <eodh9a$8qk_001(a)s849.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>In article <eobnlh$oor$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > [....] > >>No it is not at all like Mafia conflicts. The Mafia is firmly >>entrenched in Western civilization styles of living and conducting >>business. > > > The Mafia is the better model. It isn't perfect because the details don't > match up perfectly but it works quite well. The terrorists live among > populations that are not the terrorists. To remove them you need the > locals help. As with the Mafia, when you get the help of the locals, you > wi. Calling them soldiers causes you to lose the help of the locals and > calling them criminals allows you to gain it. The locals don't care what you call them. Locals are either bought off or they'll turn them in. That's why both terrorists and the Mafia of old thrived best in poor neighborhoods. snip <more naive idealism>
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 14 Jan 2007 14:08 I want to highlight just two comments from a single post by you and bring them to the fore: On Sun, 14 Jan 07 13:05:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: ><snip> > The only conclusion left is that the Democrat leadership is insane. ><snip> > The past two months I've been trying to figure out why European-type > thinking is broken. ><snip> So you feel that Democratic leaders are insane and that European thinking is broken? You ever stop to wonder why _you_ might feel this way? Ever look to yourself to find any problems in thinking and then improve yourself? Or do you always just blame others? In any case, I find these two comments from you as prima facie evidence that you need to look more closely at yourself. It almost goes without saying and I think you should realize this, even if only dimly. Jon
From: Eeyore on 14 Jan 2007 14:18 unsettled wrote: > Ken Smith wrote: > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > > >>>Treat them like the IRA and or the Mafia. To help take down organized > >>>crime, the RICO law was created. If tools are needed, they can be made. > >> > >>So you are expecting a UN jurisdiction to handle these people and > >>the messes they make. > > > > No, you have it completely wrong. The UN had nothing to do with the > > Mafia. You seem to have this bogus idea about what happens if you don't > > call it a war and it is coloring everything you think about the subject. > > You would do far better to thik of the terrorists as being like the Mafia. > > You will quickly see how that model works whereas yours doesn't. > > > >> Are you also willing to subject the > >>Constitution to the UN charter? > >> > >>That's what you are asking for and demanding. > > > > No, it isn't. > > Actually what you're asking for is even more impossible, > that any nation harboring a person we call a "terrorist" > be punished. Aside from those few countries that would intentionally harbour such persons, what's so difficult about that ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 14 Jan 2007 14:20
unsettled wrote: > John Fields wrote: > > snip <dumb donkey's stupidity> > > > If you do, then your deliberate omission of any reference to the > > UK's role in starting the trouble in Iran shows you up for the > > stinking liar that you really are. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax > > > > gives a pretty clear picture of what happened, with BP's greed being > > the fuse. > > I think they did the right thing. Don't take away someone's > property without fair compensation. Without Anglo's money > and skills, Iran would have remained as primitive as it > had always been and likely still would be. Iran's greed is > what ignited the fuse. And US oil companies got a nice reward out of it too. Graham |