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From: jmfbahciv on 25 Jan 2007 09:34 In article <45B78122.2456F7C7(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message. >> > >> >> It's been discussed here and voted on in the UK Parliament. The Police >> >> have powers to hold terrorist suspects for up to 30 days ( IIRC ) without >> >> charge subject to regular judicial review. After that time they must indeed >> be >> >> released or charged. >> >> >> >> Any longer was rejected by Parliament. >> > >> >IMHO 30 days is too long, but I suspect I am in a minority there. >> >> These people take years to plan their attacks. And you think 30 days >> is too long?! > >It is for someone who's innocent ! Your laws do assume innocence until proven guilty...right? Thus all are innocent. Are you willing to wait until a mess is made and then have the law infrastructure deal with these people? What if the infrastructure isn't there any more becaues that is what was messed up. > > >> They don't care about jail. Most see it as a recruitment opportunity. >> >> You keep assuming that these people are deterred by Western >> civilization laws and the punishments associated with breaking >> them. You have an invalid assumption. > >And you keep thinking the answer is to lock up ppl on *suspicion* alone ! So far, until methods can be created to deal with this catefory of people, yes. England extended the minimum holding time. That's not going to be an adequate change. There will have to be more as new methods of attack are created and carried out. > >That's unacceptable in a civilised society. You mean, a Western civilized society. /BAH
From: Ken Smith on 25 Jan 2007 09:45 In article <epacvf$g2d$5(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote: [.....] >How is he trying to hide it? And again you show your contempt for the >constitution. Fox news etc published an out right lie about him. Now they are lieing and saying that it was the Clinton folks that started the rumor. http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_smears_Sen._Obama_0119.html -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Eeyore on 25 Jan 2007 09:51 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >>So you are telling me that the green bean pickers are getting > >> >>minimum wage? > >> > > >> >Yup. > >> > >> That would explain why a 12 oz can of green beans costs $1.29. > > > >Canned veg is hardly the cheapest way to buy them. > > Actually, it is the cheapest. You're quite crazy. The cheapest and best way to buy them is as fresh vegetables. That's what I prefer to do unless I want some frozen ones to go in the freezer. Fresh veg tastes better too. > > It won't be the raw > >ingedients ( even when picked ) that cost that much. > > You need to go shopping in New England. Our food prices are > almost double what my mother pays (Michigan). I've heard that US food prices are very competitive compared to the UK. I'm curious how 'the free market' has produced a situation where prices vary by 2:1 from one state to another. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Jan 2007 09:53 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> That America bashing got started with the Democrat leadership > >> doing Bush bashing in their speeches overseas. > > > >Eh ? > > > >The USA has made it self very unpopular outside its own borders without the > >need for any Democrats speeches. > > Do a traceback. There must be a name for the act of finding the > origin of an idea or phrase or sentiment. Whatever made the USA unpopular you mean ? Primarily Bush and his cronies and their insane ideas about world domination ! It's as simple as that. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Jan 2007 09:54
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > They [Europeans] can afford to make > these errors because their governments assume the US will > save them with its military might. What do we need your military might for ? Graham |