From: Phil Carmody on
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes:
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:.
> > >
> > >> What if your judge has your opinion that there isn't any serious
> > >> threats by these terrorists?
> > >
> > >If the judge believes that, I'd be inclined to trust his opinion.
> > >
> > >You see in the UK there has to be a high standard of evidence before a charge
> > > is even brought in the first place.
> >
> > Exactly. Your chances of having a mess becomes more likely than
> > less likely.
>
> You're quite crazy. This country will not lock ppl up without any evidence.

It may not be prepared to lock up millions of muslims,
but it's prepared to shoot a brazillion!

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.

Yes, I know.
From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45B7E675.870AE2BF(a)hotmail.com...
>
>
> T Wake wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote:
>> >> T Wake did the cha-cha, and screamed:
>> >> >
>> >> > You claim the courts can not be used because judges may have an
>> >> > agenda,
>> >> > but secretive military systems are ok because there is no chance
>> >> > they
>> >> > will.....
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you see how crackpot this is?
>> >>
>> >> Why, what's so crackpot about complaining about judges with hidden
>> >> agendas and demanding that military judges who are accountable to no
>> >> one
>> >> outside the military try accused terrorists in secret? Apart from
>> >> apparently wanting to make it easier for conspiracies to form and
>> >> operate, that is.
>> >
>> > No such problems exist in the UK.
>> >
>> > You'd better put your own house in order I reckon.
>>
>> I suspect you have missed the element of sarcasm which runs through the
>> post.
>
> I've obviously spent too long talking to BAH !

:-)


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:epab2u$8qk_008(a)s795.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <45B61DBC.34732159(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> > Time has no hold on bias. People are just as biased about
>>> > an event that happened 5 minutes ago as one that happened
>>> > 36,500 days ago. Your persistent America bashing shows your
>>> > bias despite the internet and TV, so it isn't a communications
>>> > and information issue.
>>>
>>> It is a shame you think I am bashing America. I think America has a lot
>>> going for it and should be prepared to live up to the high standards.
>>
>>I agree.
>
> We will never live "up" to your standards because those standards
> are based in a political philosophy different from ours.

Until this thread, I would have thought you were wrong here. It seems that
this one time, you are quite correct.

> You keep
> insisting that we do everything perfectly while you all set back
> and watch us do the mess cleaning for you.

And there you go, back to being massively wrong again.

>>> Your comments seem to imply America is a barbaric nation, where
>>> suspected
>>> criminals are denied their rights and convicted prisoners are treated in
>>> an
>>> arbritrarily cruel manner. But I am the one bashing America.
>>
>>Curious isn't it. Americans actually seem to proud of their 'rougher
>>edges'.
>
> See? The thing you need from us you describe as inelegant and crude
> and not acceptable in polite society. Make up your mind.
>
> /BAH


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:epal4m$8ss_008(a)s1090.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <45B8C531.7FF0433D(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >> jasen <jasen(a)free.net.nz> wrote:
>>> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Please measure the miles between Israel and the Mediteranean.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >0
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Note the number of miles between Israel and the Suez Canal.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >about 120 at closest approach, 140 from Beersheba, 160 from Tel Aviv
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Now consider that Iran does its atomic bomb testing on
>>> >> >> Israel soil. How long do you think the Canal will be closed?
>>> >> >> You may assume that Iran doesn't "miss" and take out the
>>> >> >> core of Egyptian commerce with the same single attack.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >at that range? a couple of months.
>>> >>
>>> >> Possibly, if all political winds blow exactly the correct way.
>>> >> I can't even guess the effects of no oil tankers delivering
>>> >> oil for a couple of months. From Thatcher's book about her
>>> >> government and the coal miners' strikes, England had about
>>> >> 3 months reserve.
>>> >
>>> >Of *COAL* !
>>>
>>> Yes, child. If no oil is delivered, then your country
>>> will have to use its coal reserves. Right?
>>
>>Hey Granny, we don't have any coal reserves any more. We import coal now.
>>
>>The genius Thatcher saw to that by shutting the mines. Did she mention
>>that
> in
>>her book too ?
>
> Yes. She wanted to shut the ones that weren't productive and
> were costing lots of money just to keep open. The unions
> didn't agree and shut down all of them with their strikes.
> Unions never have thought long-term.

She lies with forked tongue there. Does she say what happened after the
strikes?


From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> They [Europeans] can afford to make
> >> these errors because their governments assume the US will
> >> save them with its military might.
> >
> >What do we need your military might for ?
>
> I don't know.

Neither do I. The 'host countries' for your overseas bases quite like the income
from them though.


> I suspect so the politicians can point at the
> US and call us the bad people when things don't go perfectly.

For whatever reason 'things' *never* seem to go that well when your lot are
involved !


> Smoke and mirrors.

Pardon ?

Graham