From: Eeyore on


lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> >> >> > Keith wrote:
> >> >> >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > And you think you can defeat 'radical Islam' with bombs and
> >> >> >> > bullets ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I know there is no choice. Perhaps you want to submit?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no need to 'submit'
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You're living in a perversely stupid fantasy paranoid world.
> >> >>
> >> >> It comes from the constant bombardment by Bush's fear-mongering--it's
> >> >> his
> >> >> way of keeping power over people. People start to lose perspective on
> >> >> what is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic.
> >> >
> >> > Have you seen this ?
> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm
> >>
> >> No, I hadn't. Interesting thesis. I do hope PBS or BBCAmerica picks up
> >> the
> >> program, I'd like to see it.
> >
> > It's available online.
> >
> > And would you believe I didn't bookmark it ! Sorry.
>
> Now that I know to look, I'm sure I can find it. I'm not a huge fan of
> streaming video like this, but if it's the only way I'll see it, I will.
> Thanks!

There are some bits and pieces here btw. The series was called 'The Power of
Nightmares'.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=power+of+nightmares&search=Search

Graham




From: John Larkin on
On 5 Oct 2006 09:21:24 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:41:27 -0700,
> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
> in Msg. <k4a8i29r7fefoc7u4d8ja0k5psaubo2s76(a)4ax.com>
>
>> The history of Europe is the history of war. The earliest Greek
>> writings that survive are tales of war. Europe has been at war for
>> most of the last 3000 years,
>
>The history of the US is no less war-ridden than that of Europe except
>that it is much shorter. This is as unfair a comparison as that between
>a single nation (the US) with only two borders and a not very
>well-defined conglomerate of dozens of nations and cultures (Europe).

I made no comparison, much less an unfair one. But sure, I guess we
are sort of young to have a Hundred Years War.

>
>> culminating in the "total war" of the
>> 20th century, killing tens of millions of non-combattants, surely the
>> largest-scale terrorism in world history.
>
>I entirely and heartily agree, but I'm surprised to hear that from you.
>If I were in your position I'd be careful when labeling acts of war as
>terrorism. You're running the risk of having to call American aggression
>terrorism, and we sure want to avoid that association.

I'm interested in forces and history. I have no emotional investment
in arguing that the US is any better or any worse than Europe or China
or anywhere else. I was born in the USA by accident and take no credit
for that or "pride" in being an American. I do enjoy it, though, and
I'm glad I'm here, now.

But I consider trerrorism to be attacking non-combattant populations
for political/emotional/morale reasons, which both sides did in WWII
and I don't think the US is doing deliberately at present.

>> It was the American occupation, Pax Americana, that enforced 60 years
>> of peace in Europe for the first time in millennia.
>
>That statement is about as true as saying that it was the Soviet regime
>that enforced those decades of peace. The only thing that kept things
>quiet in Europe was the fear of both the US and the USSR to get wiped
>off the face of the planet should they try anything stupid. That period
>is commonly referred to as the "Cold War", not "Peace".

The Cold War certainly helped hold western Europe together, and
supressed the latent anti-Americanism until the Soviet empire
collapsed and the Europeans felt they didn't need us any more.

John

From: John Fields on
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:51:39 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Gordon wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am convinced that the process which is currently under way will
>> >> achieve the outcome you specify, but it won't happen quickly.
>> >
>> >There is no *process*. It's just a jumbled mess ! There has been ZERO thought about
>> >what we're doing.
>>
>> ---
>> LOL, you think that because you're in the dark as to what's going on
>> behind closed doors that nothing's being done? That's gotta be
>> pretty close to penultimate arrogance.
>
>You're trying to suggest that there's some method to this madness.
>
>No. I don't believe that for one second.

---
Of course you don't. If you don't know about it it couldn't
possibly exist, could it?
---

>Bush and his ilk are American supremacists pure
>and simple.

---
More of your garbage opinion.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Homer J Simpson on

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:fk8ai2hhr2q700qcpmdb499i7i7sga8gpc(a)4ax.com...

> You sure are exhibiting your inability to read. You must be a
> Democrat.

So the Republicans can't read, hear or comprehend?





From: Homer J Simpson on

"Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f8ef7d3bba78e30989d96(a)News.Individual.NET...

>> It seems Americans are too stupid to even consider the concept of double
>> decker
>> buses if you need to move more ppl than fit in a single deck one !
>
> See folks" He is _that_ stupid.

Sure. Everyone knows that Americans are so fat they need a double wide bus
not a double height.