From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 13:55 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> >> > Keith wrote: > >> >> >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > And you think you can defeat 'radical Islam' with bombs and > >> >> >> > bullets ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I know there is no choice. Perhaps you want to submit? > >> >> > > >> >> > There is no need to 'submit' > >> >> > > >> >> > You're living in a perversely stupid fantasy paranoid world. > >> >> > >> >> It comes from the constant bombardment by Bush's fear-mongering--it's > >> >> his > >> >> way of keeping power over people. People start to lose perspective on > >> >> what is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic. > >> > > >> > Have you seen this ? > >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm > >> > >> No, I hadn't. Interesting thesis. I do hope PBS or BBCAmerica picks up > >> the > >> program, I'd like to see it. > > > > It's available online. > > > > And would you believe I didn't bookmark it ! Sorry. > > Now that I know to look, I'm sure I can find it. I'm not a huge fan of > streaming video like this, but if it's the only way I'll see it, I will. > Thanks! There are some bits and pieces here btw. The series was called 'The Power of Nightmares'. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=power+of+nightmares&search=Search Graham
From: John Larkin on 5 Oct 2006 13:58 On 5 Oct 2006 09:21:24 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.] >On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:41:27 -0700, > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote > in Msg. <k4a8i29r7fefoc7u4d8ja0k5psaubo2s76(a)4ax.com> > >> The history of Europe is the history of war. The earliest Greek >> writings that survive are tales of war. Europe has been at war for >> most of the last 3000 years, > >The history of the US is no less war-ridden than that of Europe except >that it is much shorter. This is as unfair a comparison as that between >a single nation (the US) with only two borders and a not very >well-defined conglomerate of dozens of nations and cultures (Europe). I made no comparison, much less an unfair one. But sure, I guess we are sort of young to have a Hundred Years War. > >> culminating in the "total war" of the >> 20th century, killing tens of millions of non-combattants, surely the >> largest-scale terrorism in world history. > >I entirely and heartily agree, but I'm surprised to hear that from you. >If I were in your position I'd be careful when labeling acts of war as >terrorism. You're running the risk of having to call American aggression >terrorism, and we sure want to avoid that association. I'm interested in forces and history. I have no emotional investment in arguing that the US is any better or any worse than Europe or China or anywhere else. I was born in the USA by accident and take no credit for that or "pride" in being an American. I do enjoy it, though, and I'm glad I'm here, now. But I consider trerrorism to be attacking non-combattant populations for political/emotional/morale reasons, which both sides did in WWII and I don't think the US is doing deliberately at present. >> It was the American occupation, Pax Americana, that enforced 60 years >> of peace in Europe for the first time in millennia. > >That statement is about as true as saying that it was the Soviet regime >that enforced those decades of peace. The only thing that kept things >quiet in Europe was the fear of both the US and the USSR to get wiped >off the face of the planet should they try anything stupid. That period >is commonly referred to as the "Cold War", not "Peace". The Cold War certainly helped hold western Europe together, and supressed the latent anti-Americanism until the Soviet empire collapsed and the Europeans felt they didn't need us any more. John
From: John Fields on 5 Oct 2006 14:00 On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:51:39 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Gordon wrote: >> > >> >> I am convinced that the process which is currently under way will >> >> achieve the outcome you specify, but it won't happen quickly. >> > >> >There is no *process*. It's just a jumbled mess ! There has been ZERO thought about >> >what we're doing. >> >> --- >> LOL, you think that because you're in the dark as to what's going on >> behind closed doors that nothing's being done? That's gotta be >> pretty close to penultimate arrogance. > >You're trying to suggest that there's some method to this madness. > >No. I don't believe that for one second. --- Of course you don't. If you don't know about it it couldn't possibly exist, could it? --- >Bush and his ilk are American supremacists pure >and simple. --- More of your garbage opinion. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Homer J Simpson on 5 Oct 2006 14:04 "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:fk8ai2hhr2q700qcpmdb499i7i7sga8gpc(a)4ax.com... > You sure are exhibiting your inability to read. You must be a > Democrat. So the Republicans can't read, hear or comprehend?
From: Homer J Simpson on 5 Oct 2006 14:04
"Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1f8ef7d3bba78e30989d96(a)News.Individual.NET... >> It seems Americans are too stupid to even consider the concept of double >> decker >> buses if you need to move more ppl than fit in a single deck one ! > > See folks" He is _that_ stupid. Sure. Everyone knows that Americans are so fat they need a double wide bus not a double height. |