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From: Kurt Ullman on 5 Oct 2006 15:18 In article <mgcVg.8914$GR.6106(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >> Oh, the innumeracy. At the rate that they're doing that, it will take at > >> least an order of magnitude longer than all of recorded human history to > >> reach the stated endpoint. In the meantime, how about if we stop giving > >> them reasons to do so? > >> > > So, we just all capitulate and become Muslim states? > > And again, I'll ask, is there nothing in your worldview but "nuke 'em all" > and "capitulate". Must really suck to live in such a black-and-white world. > You suggested that we stop giving them reasons to hate us. From their own rhetoric and statements, the only way we are going to get that subset that hates to stop is to capitulate. Period. There is plenty in my world view between the two, but I have seen nothin' to indicate there is anything else in THEIR world view. I don't want to nuke 'em all. Just light up those who are actively trying to kill me.
From: T Wake on 5 Oct 2006 15:18 "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1f8ef4cf73c0df1e989d90(a)News.Individual.NET... > In article <HLVUg.13315$7I1.5654(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... >> >> "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >> news:MPG.1f8dd485be8e903f989d78(a)News.Individual.NET... >> > In article <0h18i21ket4s0m5rkk8gckp0kk4oih33hh(a)4ax.com>, To-Email- >> > Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com says... >> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 06 14:48:36 GMT, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article <MPG.1f8db6b8105f0bb9989d69(a)News.Individual.NET>, >> >> > Keith <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> >> >>Phones (of the domestic type, anyway) aren't tapped without >> >> >>warrant. Get with the program. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Tapped? That's semantics. How does the NSA know a call is going to >> >> >involve >> >> >someone of interest? They monitor all calls and a computer "listens" >> >> >for >> >> >certain key words and phrases. >> >> > >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> That's rarely the case, and not without warrant. >> >> >> >> What NSA was doing was using computer perusal of telephone _records_, >> >> "To/From" data. >> >> >> >> From those suspicious records, taps were authorized by a judge. >> > >> > YEs, and the foreign "taps" were intercepted calls from >> > "interesting" foreign numbers. They were not taps on phones. >> >> I don't care. If you're listening to a phone call to which the phone in >> my >> living room is party, then as a citizen of the US, I demand that your >> listening be carried out according to my Constitutional rights. >> > Your "demands" are silly. When the other end of the line is in a > mosque in Iran (number captured on a &bad_guy's_laptop), I _demand_ > that your call be intercepted. Your "Constitutional rights" have > nothing to do with it. And that isn't a silly demand? In order to protect _your_ life you will violate the rights and freedom of others. Wonderful approach.
From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 15:19 Kurt Ullman wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > To consider those real issues but to call the abuse of minors by a > > Congressman "a smokescreen" is about as disingenuous as politics gets. > > > Define abuse, (seriously). I usually reserve that term for actual > physical contact (sexual, assaultive) and (so far at least) there is > nothing to indicate that either happened. I could say there's no smoke without fire but that would be disingenous of me. Nevertheless, that kind of standard of proof is currently being used in the 'war on terror' to justify killing ppl ! Graham
From: Jim Thompson on 5 Oct 2006 15:19 On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:07:36 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >In article <M9cVg.51603$E67.40698(a)clgrps13>, > "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >> "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:kurtullman-25F347.08023505102006(a)customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx.. >> . >> >> >> And what percentage of Americans have ever been further than Canada or >> >> Mexico? Or have even left their own state? >> >> >> >> Ever watch Jay Leno? >> > >> > Yep that certainly meets my criteria for a well-done population >> > study.... >> >> Jay Leno: "Which two countries border the United States?" >> >> Girl on the Street: "Ummm, errr, ahhh, Europe and ummm, Paris?" >> >> Yep, that's an American all right. Like those who think Alaska is an island. > > Yep I am impressed how one girl on the street can then be reliably >used as an exemplar for 300 million or so people. When do you go to >Norway? We're not expected to be at 300 million until next week ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: John Fields on 5 Oct 2006 15:19
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:54:30 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:3oc7i2hc14krufblrpvgq9cstc115lq4i7(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:13:29 +0100, "T Wake" >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>>news:61u2i2pirp98lghk6samgbgfq4f9ria646(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:05:11 +0100, Eeyore >>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>John Larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Graham has a pathological and mostly irrational hatred of America, >>>>> >>>>>Not at all. I am however intruiged how Americancs invariably bring out >>>>>the >>>>>hate word the very second even the tiniest >>>>>criticism is voiced against them. >>>>> >>>>>It's not hate at all, more like despair at the crass stupidity of your >>>>>governmemnt and the ppl who elected them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> and makes up things to support that need. >>>>> >>>>>Simply no need ever to do that ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So naturally he doesn't like to >>>>>> be reminded about stuff like WWII or the Cold War. He believes that >>>>>> the UK and Russia defeated Germany with little need for US assistance. >>>>> >>>>>The USA was around 3 years late to the party of course. I have little >>>>>doubt that Russia would have eventually defeated >>>>>Germany anyway. Germany could certainly never ever have defeated Russia, >>>>>the numbers simply aren't even remotely >>>>>credible. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> That's all Monday morning quarterbacking but, if as you say, had >>>> Russia defeated Germany without the US being involved do you think >>>> that you'd still be speaking English as a first language? >>> >>>And that isn't Monday morning quarterbacking? >> >> --- >> No, it's merely conjecture. A Monday morning quarterback is one who >> criticizes or passes judgment from a position of hindsight. Notice >> that it was posed as a question, which offers room for a reply. >> > >It was posed as a loaded question - even sentences offer room for reply. The >person can simply disagree. Your post was, by the implied answer, passing >judgement from a position of hindsight. > >If it was an honest question, then sorry for jumping to a conclusion and >"Yes" is the only answer. Even in poor, constantly invaded Poland, Polish >was their first language. Your implication that Russian would take the place >of English is not supported by history. --- My reference to not speaking English as a first language was a euphemism for being conquered, which was related to an earlier post by Graham stating that had the US not become involved in WW2, England and Germany might have teamed up to fight Russia after Germany double-crossed Russia. In my opinion that would have been suicide for England, as depleted as it would have been, when Russia came rolling in to get Germany. So yes, the question was loaded, but it wasn't Monday morning quarterbacking. Monday morning quarterbacking would have been more like: "If only Germany had done thus and such, she would have won." -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |