From: John Larkin on 5 Oct 2006 14:19 On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:03:13 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >It's what Bush has done to America that's horrible. It's brought the very >> >worst out in eveyone there. It was fine under Clinton. >> >> No. It was not fine at all. > >It looked a heck of a lot better to me and least he was an intelligent and >articulate man, something that could never be said of Bush. Of course he was articulate. Many sociopaths are. John
From: Kurt Ullman on 5 Oct 2006 14:22 In article <eg3f0u$j7l$8(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > First, we don't know that. Secondly, when did the 4th amendment get repealed > for an American citizen calling, say, France? Didn't. If the American is CALLING France, warrants are still needed, even under the Bush statement. When calls originate OUTSIDE the country and just come, then Bush says they don't need warrants. This is backed up by current law, more or less. If there is a legal tap on Goomba 1, then if Goomba 2 calls G1, anything G2 says is usable against G2, because the tap was legal. In this case, when calls originate outside the US, there are no requirements for warrant. Thus, if Terrorist 1 calls Terrorist 2 in Pakistan it is legal. If T1 calls T3 in Newark it is also legal. If one phone is legally tapped any calls to or from that phone are fair game.
From: John Larkin on 5 Oct 2006 14:24 On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:15:37 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:t1v8i21l8kal7h6td3j4nr6gir8t5b26mu(a)4ax.com... > >> Sounds strange to me. The people I know have traveled a lot, and many >> have lived in other countries. Americans are often fans and admirers >> of other countries and languages. As for not being very introspective, >> that is true of many Americans, and it's generally a virtue: jobs, >> hobbies, interests, causes, and family are a lot more interesting than >> narcissistic, neurotic self-absorption. Maybe you are mistaking >> politeness and open-mindedness for being gullible: they are different. >> >> Of course America is big, with beaches, glaciers, mountains, rivers, >> an enormous variety of geography and cultures. Not all Americans elect >> to fly overseas when we have 50 different states of our own to >> explore. Your thinking seems to be undisturbed by actual knowledge of >> the US. > >And what percentage of Americans have ever been further than Canada or >Mexico? Or have even left their own state? I don't know. But I personally know few people who have not traveled the world a good deal. I've spent time in, and worked in, England, the USSR, France, and Japan, and visited a few others. My wife lived in Germany for a couple of years and traveled extensively. Her sister spends her vacations in a village in Siberia. And like that. John hey, the building just shook. The Blue Angels just made a pass overhead.
From: Kurt Ullman on 5 Oct 2006 14:25 In article <eg3f49$j7l$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > >They do? I thought that was Dan Blather's (et. al.) name. > > How cute. Do you spell it Klinton too? My personal favorite is Clintoon, but that is probably secondary to my being force fed Looney Toons as a kid. Now, tell me true, if I was go looking on Google for the posts of lparker, etc., I wouldn't find even on tiny reference to The Shrub or similar? Hmmmm????? > > If an American in America is involved, there's the 4th amendment. If the American in America initiates the call. If someone outside the US initiates the call, that isn't anywhere near as cut and dried... yet.
From: Homer J Simpson on 5 Oct 2006 14:28
"Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1f8f0660ee17b5be989d9b(a)News.Individual.NET... > It looked good to you because you are so blind that you will not > see. So spake the blind man. |