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From: Eeyore on 27 Jan 2007 19:49 unsettled wrote: > T Wake wrote > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>T Wake wrote: > >>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > >>>>T Wake wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>The insanity is the same, the actions carried out as a result of the > >>>>>insanity are different. Does that mean the insanity is different? > >>>> > >>>>Certainly. The ones who cause the most harm to themselves > >>>>or others are the most insane. > >>> > >>>Ok then I will modify my previous statement to saying fundamentalist > >>>Muslims are no more (or less) insane than any religious fundamentalist who > >>>advocates / causes harm to others on the same scale. > >> > >>Which is one reason why the Palestine issue is destined to run and run. > > > > > > Yep. When you get two insane people arguing, will it ever end? (I present > > this thread as evidence the answer is no... :-)) > > Good Grief! A consensus. You see. If only you take time to listen to what the other guy has to say...... Graham
From: Phil Carmody on 27 Jan 2007 19:49 Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > _also_, and in particular specifically, because some IPU has > IPU ? Invisible Pink Unicorn. Google or Wiki for more. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: Eeyore on 27 Jan 2007 19:55 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > Phil Carmody wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > >> > Phil Carmody wrote: > >> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > >> > > > It would in fact be a very serious mistake to underestimate the > >> > > > Islamists by assuming they're insane. > >> > > > > >> > > > The way they've planned and executed attacks with minimal materials > >> > > > to hand shows a great deal of inventiveness/resourcefulness. > >> > > > >> > > Sociopathic? > >> > > >> > If we were Muslims living in the ME who felt threatened by the USA they > >> > would seem like heroes / a resistance force. > >> > >> Yes. All things are relative. Sociopathic with respect to the > >> societal norms that we Western-Europeans/Americans maitain. > >> I'm fairly sure there are some fairly large communities where > >> the societal norms would be, to me, completely fucked up. > > > > The USA ? > > > > Films like Saw III which depict murder, mutilation and torture as > > entertainment say something very scary about the society that produces them. > > I disagree with you wholeheartedly here. You don't think it says something scary about the USA ? > I am far from convinced that media violence or activities has the impact on > people that it is claimed. It certainly has not happened in my case, and it > has not happened in the cases of anyone I know. I would once have tended to side with you but extreme examples such as the one I mentioned tend to isolate ppl from reality I reckon and numb them about such things. To present torture specifically intentionally as entertainment is perverse to say the least IMHO. > While this is purely anecdotal evidence (and I am fully aware of how > valuable that makes it...), the research which says "watching violence makes > you violent" is shaky at best. I suspect it may make you more tolerant of it. > It is the same as saying things like Playing Dungeons and Dragons makes you > a Satanist or any of the other claims about "contemporary" culture which > have been made over the years. I don't see the connection there at all. Graham
From: The Secretary of HomIntern on 27 Jan 2007 20:19 The God of Odd Statements wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:31 +0000, jmfbahciv did most oddly state: > >>> What you are saying here is that because innocent people can not be >>> punished, there is more chance of something bad happening. >> You keep assuming that those who are planning to destroy your >> infrastructure are innocent. They are not. > > Presumed innocent until proven guilty. Any other way is abusive of a > person's rights. > What about the rights of all those gerbils you love stuffing up your butt. You'll be hearing from PETA very very soon, *perv*
From: Phil Carmody on 27 Jan 2007 20:25
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> writes: > > > "Phil Carmody" <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > > > >> unsettled wrote: > > > >> > Where's the bright line distinguishing fundamentalist from sane? > > > >> > > > >> Islamist are not medically insane, > > > > > > > > Have you ever played 'tick the boxes' with DSM IV? > > > > > > > > They're insane in spades, according to that. > > > > 99% of usenet would be too, though. > > > > > > Only 99%. Phew.... > > > > But they post 100 times as much each as the sane ones. > > > > (Jai Maharaj used to once boast about how he had posted over > > one hundred thousand articles to Usenet, for example.) > > Is that all ? Until I started reading sci.physics for shits and giggles, (without a killfile at all) the last post by him that I saw (due to my otherwise rampant killfiling) was the best part of a decade ago. I hate to imagine what his total is now. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./. |