From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:

>
> unsettled wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>
>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>>It does to me. Both sides were begging the US to enter on their
>>>>>>side, right from the beginning. The US attempted to remain
>>>>>>neutral, however munitions manufacturers illegally sold to
>>>>>>the Brit side, eventually forcing the issue.
>>>>
>>>>>OK. I am I reading your post correctly here. Both sides were asking for help
>>>>>but your country refused to help. When some people broke the law and helped
>>>>>one side by selling munitions your government, the resulting attack by the
>>>>>Germans (in 1915) made your Government change it's mind and join the war (in
>>>>>1917).
>>>>
>>>>>It might be me, but I dont read that as saying the country got involved
>>>>>Europe asked for help.
>>>>
>>>>The UK asked from the beginning of hostilities and never
>>>>withdrew their request for help.
>>>>
>>>>Our internal politics had the country divided, so we kept out
>>>>of the war.
>>>>
>>>>The sinking of the Lusitania resolved the internal dissent and
>>>>we entered the war to help the UK and her allies at her request.
>>>
>>>
>>>It still doesn't mean you saved us though.
>>>
>>>By about 1916 IIRC it became clear that the German war machine was bogged down and
>>>would make no further progress.
>>>
>>>Defeat was just a matter of time for Germany. Their best option was to hold out
>>>and hope for decent terms of surrender.
>>
>>You really are stupid.
>>
>>The Russians didn't collapse till 1917 and a peace treaty
>>with them wasn't concluded till 1918, which allowed Germany
>>to move all her troops to the Western Front and against you
>>lot.
>>
>>So it wasn't clear that Germany was down and ready to collapse
>>in 1916 for any number of reasons. The US entered the war in
>>April 1917 and the war didn't officially end till the Treaty
>>of Versailles on June 28, 1919.
>>
>>Yes, we saved you both times.
>
>
> Utter rubbish.
>
>
>
>>If Germany had been on the verge of collapse, the war would
>>have been over much sooner after the entry of the US into
>>the mess.
>
>
> The war on the western front was in stalemate. It was simply a case of whose side would
> be exhausted first. France and Britain had the upper hand with 2 empires to supply
> materiel and ( aside from submarine attacks ) virtual total control of the sea.

LOL, and German U Boats sinking shipping at will.

Sure you did.


From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:

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> unsettled wrote:
>
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>>T Wake wrote
>>
>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The insanity is the same, the actions carried out as a result of the
>>>>>>>insanity are different. Does that mean the insanity is different?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly. The ones who cause the most harm to themselves
>>>>>>or others are the most insane.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok then I will modify my previous statement to saying fundamentalist
>>>>>Muslims are no more (or less) insane than any religious fundamentalist who
>>>>>advocates / causes harm to others on the same scale.
>>>>
>>>>Which is one reason why the Palestine issue is destined to run and run.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yep. When you get two insane people arguing, will it ever end? (I present
>>>this thread as evidence the answer is no... :-))
>>
>>Good Grief! A consensus.
>
>
> You see. If only you take time to listen to what the other guy has to say......

How many monkeys typing how long......

From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > unsettled wrote:
> >
> >>Yes, we saved you both times.
> >
> > Utter rubbish.
> >
> >>If Germany had been on the verge of collapse, the war would
> >>have been over much sooner after the entry of the US into
> >>the mess.
> >
> > The war on the western front was in stalemate. It was simply a case of whose side > would
> be exhausted first. France and Britain had the upper hand with 2 empires to > supply
> materiel and ( aside from submarine attacks ) virtual total control of the sea.
>
> LOL, and German U Boats sinking shipping at will.

The U boat problem was vastly worse in WW2.


> Sure you did.

The German surface navy hardly ever even left port.

Graham


From: The Secretary of HomIntern on
The God of Odd Statements wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:26:01 +0000, T Wake did most oddly state:
>>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> But, wait! He hasn't made any messes yet. So you can't arrest
>>>>>>>> him. If your police do manage to arrest him, he can pay the bail
>>>>>>>> and be free to continue his plans to make a mess.
>
> Someone who "hasn't made any messes yet" may continue to fail to do so.
> Unless there is some kind of hard evidence proving a likelihood of an
> intention to "make a mess", holding someone on vague suspicion is abuse
> of power, and only likely to motivate a real mess-maker. It's always
> easier to justify a terrorist attack when one is opposing genuine
> tyranny. Saddam Hussein was always one to hold people based on vague
> suspicions.
>
Return to the mental facility from whence you escaped, as$clown!
From: Jabriol on
The God of Odd Statements wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:31 +0000, jmfbahciv did most oddly state:
>
>>> What you are saying here is that because innocent people can not be
>>> punished, there is more chance of something bad happening.
>> You keep assuming that those who are planning to destroy your
>> infrastructure are innocent. They are not.
>
> Presumed innocent until proven guilty. Any other way is abusive of a
> person's rights.
>
Return to the mental facility from whence you escaped, as$clown!