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From: unsettled on 6 Feb 2007 16:34 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>>>Anyway that's only part of it. Any form of damage or contamination >>>>that allows the receptacle to become carbonized can easily lead >>>>to an electrical fire. >>> >>>In order for anything to carbonise it has to get hot. The BS1363 plug only carries 13A >>>though a solid machined contact unlike the 15A you put through your bits of bent metal. >> >>>Ir doesn't get hot ! >> >>Contamination, such as getting wet, causes the demise of receptacles pronto. > > > And how do propose they get wet ? In what way are UK sockets uniquely susceptible to this ? > > > >>Nearby lightning strikes cause arcing at the oddest places, another source of carbonization. > > > You get more lightning in the USA AFAIK. > > > >>Let's talk a little about your "solid machined contact" in >>your receptacles. >> >>1 spring action is required. > > > That's in the socket part of course. > > > >>stamped properly tempered metal is more than adequate > > > Adequate maybe. But not very rugged. > > > >>2 the price of machining is outrageous > > > Somehow we manage. It's cheap for the Chinese to do it seems. > > > >>A standard 15 amp duplex receptacle is available in >>the USA with a low end price of well under 1 US$. High >>end decorative is around $35 which includes built in >>surge suppression. > > > You're now arguing in favour of inferior engineering on the basis of price ? How stupid *are* you? I won't buy and use a platinum hammer where a brass one will do.
From: unsettled on 6 Feb 2007 16:35 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45C81359.849E3078(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>unsettled wrote: >> > > <snip> > >>>Sounds like propaganda. I'd have to see actual statistics on that. >> >>It just doesn't happen unlike the conflagrations you guys get. The British >>system > is simply far better engineered. > > > While I have no interesting a pissing competition about whose electrical > system is better, the stats are available from the Health and Safety > Executive website. Neither am I.
From: Phil Carmody on 6 Feb 2007 17:43 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> writes: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:eq9ru7$8ss_002(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > > In article <apydnSufhMo__FrYnZ2dnUVZ8sWhnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>news:eq79n9$8qk_008(a)s1004.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>> In article <45C6525A.BB423643(a)hotmail.com>, > >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> >There's a Cambridge Mass too. > >>>>> > >>>>> Son, that is a town; it is not a school. > >>>> > >>>>City actually. Same as ours. > >>> > >>> I think it's a town. I'd have to check what it's carter is. > >>> I don't remember a mayor of Cambridge. > >>>> > >>>>Cambridge is a city in the Greater Boston area of Massachusetts, United > >>> States. > >>>>It was named in honor of Cambridge, England. > >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge%2C_Massachusetts > >>>> > >>>>The city of Cambridge is an old English university town and the > >>> administrative > >>>>centre of the county of Cambridgeshire. > >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge > >>> > >>> The difference between town and city is the style of government. > >> > >>Do you think this applies universally? > > > > Here, it does. > > Can you see the contradiction in that phrase? > > > The reason you three have hared off into some strange direction > > in this thread is Eeyore's suggestion that the reference to > > Cambridge might have been the Massachusetts town. It was not. > > If the guy had gone to one of the schools in Cambridge, Mass., > > he would not have written _at_ Cambridge; this is a unique > > phrasing in England and not done in the US. The guy would > > have acquired American phrasing and not British phrasing if > > he had gone to MIT or Harvard. > > Interesting line of conclusions. While it appears valid, it does suffer from > the flaw that Habishi certainly did _not_ study at the University of > Cambridge. > > I know a few Americans who say they studied _at_ MIT or Harvard (or where > ever) so I remain unconvinced that the "at" is a unique indicator of > Britishness. At <institution name, or shortened form thereof> is both English and American. However, Cambridge not being an institution name in the US context implies that it must be the UK one. I'll side with BAH on this one, folks. However, my money's on it, the claim, being oxpoo. Of course people who did go to 'the other place' all know that the correct name for it is Fenland Poly. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: Winfield Hill on 6 Feb 2007 18:17 On Jan 23, Eeyore wrote: > Winfield Hill wrote: >> Winfield Hill wrote: >>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> h...(a)rowland.org wrote: >>>>> h...(a)rowland.org wrote: >>>>>> h...(a)rowland.org wrote: >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4200 postings and still going strong. Amazing. > >>>>>>>>>>> Wow, now 7200 posts and still going strong. And most >>>>>>>>>>> of the posts were under the original subject title. This >>>>>>>>>>> must be some kind of a record. Certainly it's a stress >>>>>>>>>>> test for the Google Groups web-page display code, etc. > >>>>>>>>>> Never have so many, said so much, about so little! ;-) > >>>>>>>>>> I heard of one long flame war that passed 10K posts, >>>>>>>>>> but I never found out which newsgroup. > >>>>>>>>> We passed 9000 on the 14th, and are now within 100 posts >>>>>>>>> of 10,000. Keep up the good work guys, you can do it! > >>>>>>>> Good job guys and gals, over 10,000 posts, and still >>>>>>>> going strong. And still on topic more or less. I've only >>>>>>>> read a smattering of the posts here and there, and there's >>>>>>>> a minimum of flaming SFAICS. Nice to see. > >>>>>>> Still going strong, over 11,300 posts, no sign of slowing. > >>>>>> Impressive, zoomed right past 12,000 without slowing, now >>>>>> at 12130 posts and climbing towards 13000, going strong. > >>>>> Hmm, we're slowing down a bit folks! We're now at 12480 >>>>> posts with 12500 in sight, but not so sure about 13000. > >>>> Merry Christmas, Win. :) > >>> Happy New Year Michael :) > >>> With this post we're only three away from breaking the >>> 12500 post BARRIER. I know we can do it! > >> Now at 13950, still going strong! > > Past the 14000 barrier now ! Past the 16,000 barrier, good going! Did I miss when y'all zoomed past 15,000?
From: T Wake on 6 Feb 2007 18:26
"Phil Carmody" <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:87r6t27vpw.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org... > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> writes: >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> news:eq9ru7$8ss_002(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> > In article <apydnSufhMo__FrYnZ2dnUVZ8sWhnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >>news:eq79n9$8qk_008(a)s1004.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>> In article <45C6525A.BB423643(a)hotmail.com>, >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >There's a Cambridge Mass too. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Son, that is a town; it is not a school. >> >>>> >> >>>>City actually. Same as ours. >> >>> >> >>> I think it's a town. I'd have to check what it's carter is. >> >>> I don't remember a mayor of Cambridge. >> >>>> >> >>>>Cambridge is a city in the Greater Boston area of Massachusetts, >> >>>>United >> >>> States. >> >>>>It was named in honor of Cambridge, England. >> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge%2C_Massachusetts >> >>>> >> >>>>The city of Cambridge is an old English university town and the >> >>> administrative >> >>>>centre of the county of Cambridgeshire. >> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge >> >>> >> >>> The difference between town and city is the style of government. >> >> >> >>Do you think this applies universally? >> > >> > Here, it does. >> >> Can you see the contradiction in that phrase? >> >> > The reason you three have hared off into some strange direction >> > in this thread is Eeyore's suggestion that the reference to >> > Cambridge might have been the Massachusetts town. It was not. >> > If the guy had gone to one of the schools in Cambridge, Mass., >> > he would not have written _at_ Cambridge; this is a unique >> > phrasing in England and not done in the US. The guy would >> > have acquired American phrasing and not British phrasing if >> > he had gone to MIT or Harvard. >> >> Interesting line of conclusions. While it appears valid, it does suffer >> from >> the flaw that Habishi certainly did _not_ study at the University of >> Cambridge. >> >> I know a few Americans who say they studied _at_ MIT or Harvard (or where >> ever) so I remain unconvinced that the "at" is a unique indicator of >> Britishness. > > At <institution name, or shortened form thereof> > > is both English and American. > > However, Cambridge not being an institution name in the US context > implies that it must be the UK one. I'll side with BAH on this one, > folks. However, my money's on it, the claim, being oxpoo. I do not have a strong enough argument to disagree with BAH here and if someone said they studied at Cambridge, I would (as would pretty much everyone else in the world, I think) assume they meant the one in the UK. I am very unconvinced that the "at" alone is justification for that assumption. However, I think we all agree that the chance of Habishi having attended _any_ higher education establishment here, in the US or in India (as he sometimes implies) is about the same as me being an eight foot tall red indian-Russian. > Of course people who did go to 'the other place' all know that > the correct name for it is Fenland Poly. LOL. |