From: Ken Smith on 5 Feb 2007 22:10 In article <eafab$45c764cf$49ecf88$8454(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > >> In article <eq764a$8qk_003(a)s1004.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> [....] >> >>>having to clear the funnel every 5'. I'm deathly afraid >>>of ice these days. >> >> >> http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=2&p=46633&cat=2,51676&ap=1 > >Thanks, that's excellent pricing. I had looked locally to >find prices 3X those on the web page. My frugality overcame >my fear of slipping. At these prices those lines no longer >cross before I get to them. Lee Valley does not sell on price. Check out some of their hand tools. They have very nice stuff at moderately high prices. > >BAH, since you don't have WWW handy, the page is a vendor >who sells slip-on over the shoe/boot device with hardened >metal points sticking downwards to grip ice providing >needed traction. These don't compete with normal clean >friction surfaces, but do make the best possible compromise >and at a reasonable price. Don't get the ones that only go on the ball of the foot. You need the heel spikes too. A common fall is to have your feet slip forwards. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 5 Feb 2007 22:16 In article <0LKdnfp6w6j5-VrYnZ2dnUVZ8seinZ2d(a)pipex.net>, T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eq78ue$8qk_003(a)s1004.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <eq56kc$h3d$6(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>In article <eq4ksf$8ss_009(a)s795.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>[......] >>>>Most of the code I wrote didn't do calculations. Most of OS >>>>code simply moves bits without error. >>> >>>Now that Windows is the most common OS, >> >> Except Windows isn't an OS. > >What is the OS on a windows XP machine then? What about a Windows Vista >machine? Vista is really a shell. It contains a bunch of XP code. Whenever OS like stuff needs to be done, Vista passes the command to the XP code. Which then passes it down to some Win98 code that fires up DOS and runs the operation through QBasic. This is why Vista needs so much RAM. > > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 5 Feb 2007 22:23 Eeyore wrote: > unsettled wrote: >>Eeyore wrote: >>>Look at the difficulty in getting kids to study science now for example. I'm >>>sure the kids are right to tend to avoid it since they've seen so many >>>'scientific' jobs disappear. >>Spoken like a tech. Science isn't a "job", it is a calling. >> >>Perhaps you meant to say "engineering". > I used the term science quite intentionally. Hence the quote marks. Not least > because that's what politicans here call it. Engineering has become a dirty word. > There's another problem. So what you actually meant is technological jobs? I was told that a man whose job related education consisted of an solely of an apprenticeship at Rolls Royce (automobiles) was "an engineer" I almost fell out of my chair. His "maths" consisted of what we call "shop math" over and above the regular schooling all children get. >>>Also, as for Blair's idea that we can do 'R&D' instead of manufacturing, he's >>>barking mad. Doesn't he know who it is who needs that R&D ? >>Once again spoken like a tech. The future needs today's R&D. > Of course it's required by companies. Now explain how a country with little > manufacturing industry can support a large R&D industry. Immediately switch from being a socialist economy to a capitalism. R&D is an investment just like any other. How can you *not* afford that?
From: MassiveProng on 5 Feb 2007 22:33 On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:07:44 -0000, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eq78ue$8qk_003(a)s1004.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <eq56kc$h3d$6(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>In article <eq4ksf$8ss_009(a)s795.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>[......] >>>>Most of the code I wrote didn't do calculations. Most of OS >>>>code simply moves bits without error. >>> >>>Now that Windows is the most common OS, >> >> Except Windows isn't an OS. > >What is the OS on a windows XP machine then? What about a Windows Vista >machine? > Everything after Win98 was a whole OS. Before that, it was a DOS LIKE kernel, which had the GUI added onto it. 95 WAS DOS with the GUI added, as was all versions before it.
From: unsettled on 5 Feb 2007 22:38
Eeyore wrote: > unsettled wrote: >>Eeyore wrote: >>>unsettled wrote: >>>>Ken Smith wrote: >>>>>The US is also very safety oriented. In China, I asked for an extension >>>>>cord. The took a length of zip cord, stripped the ends, folded them over >>>>>and pushed them into the wall outlet. >>>>In the UK it appeared to me that every power cord had a fuse >>>>in the plug. OTOH they're known for their "ring" circuits with >>>>high ampere fusing. >>>30 amps is high ? >>Yes. 7200 watts at 240 volts. That's what the typical >>US electric clothes dryers uses, and the typical >>central air conditioning condenser. > A ring typically supplies an entire floor/storey of a British home possibly > excluding the kitchen. That's no excuse. >>US general purpose circuits are mostly 15 amperes at >>120 volts, with some 20 ampere circuits for kitchens >>with heavy appliance use, and laundries where a washing >>machine and gas clothes dryer are connected to one >>circuit. >>We don't do rings for residential power. > I know. >>UK puts up to 7 amp fuses in the cord plugs, > 13A actually ( 3kW ). Popular fuse sizes are 5, 10 and 13 amps with 7, 3, 2 and > 1 amp available too. Worse than I thought. >>approximately the same wattage as our 15 amp branch circuits. > >>>>Safety in one way, not so very safe in another. >>>In what way is that unsafe exactly ? >>Doctor Doctor, what's holding up that brain transplant? > I see you can't answer the question. I shouldn't ave to, with your extensive technical knowledge. LOL > What do you think fuses are there for ? Hint. It's not to 'protect' the > appliance. They're there to "protect" the wiring. In your case there's serious energy at the receptacle, plenty enough to very quickly start a fire. Your receptacles themselves are not capable of safely carrying the current available to them. That's God awful design. If the plastic material of the receptacle carbonizes and begins to arc there's an awful lot of energy available to star a fire. We have, at most, 20 amperes at 120 volts in general use receptacles, fed by wire that will carry that current forever without overheating. And we derate that wire to 80% normal (here's a new word for you) ampacity in those cases where the circuit will be used continuously for 3 hours or longer. UK uses a smaller wire for the ring circuit, counting on it being fed from two direction to each load. The wire, by US standards, is significantly undersized. Presuming a break anywhere in that loop means that the full 30 amperes is available to a terribly undersized wire which can then over heat to glowing inside the walls and ceilings without the protective overcurrent device disconnecting the load. |