From: John Fields on
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:11:01 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote
>> >
>> > I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then :-) That war on
>> > tobacco really needs to get started soon.
>>
>> It has, thankfully. Most major cities in the US ban tobacco use in public
>> places, and several states are considering state-wide bans. Still perfectly
>> legal at home and in most places outdoors, but at least I can eat dinner in
>> a restaurant without smoke making me physically ill.
>
>I can barely wait for the UK law banning smoking in public places to come into
>effect. It'll be so much nicer.

---
The last time my wife came back from the UK she said she couldn't
believe how much you people smoke. How much do you all smoke?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:54:29 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>
>>
>>
>>John Fields wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Homer J Simpson wrote:
>>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>>> >>
>>> >> >> I'm saying that if someone threatens their fundamental freedoms,
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> British public will defend them.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hopefully.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I grow less and less sure of this as I watch public debate each
>>> >> > day.
>>> >>
>>> >> A mistake Hitler made. He read reports of pacifist debates in the UK
>>> >> and
>>> >> assumed they were a guide to the lack of response to be expected
>>> >> during an
>>> >> attack on Britain.
>>> >>
>>> >> The British Air Force response showed him the error of his ways.
>>> >
>>> >The Royal Air Force to be entirely accurate but yes, we were certainly
>>> >far
>>> >from unready. In fact Britain's armaments industry had been working
>>> >hard in
>>> >the years preceding WW2 to make the planes ( and other stuff ) we knew
>>> >we
>>> >were going to need.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> And yet, had we not come to your rescue, you'd be dog meat today.
>>
>>A ridiculous idea. We won the Battle of Britain and Germany knew it
>>couldn't
>>invade without air superiority.
>>
>
> All of Europe would have been toast without us... including you,
> chump.

Nice one. When are you doing a tour of comedy clubs?

Mainland Europe _was_ toast.


From: T Wake on

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>T Wake wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:45258DFB.BBB5B87C(a)earthlink.net...
>> >T Wake wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes.
>> >>
>> >> Are you struggling with the word choice?
>> >
>> >
>> > I have no problems with it, but you seem to.
>> >
>>
>> Really.
>>
>> Let us review the information.
>>
>> I object to being _forced_ to carry an ID card.
>>
>> You respond with comments about my driving licence - which is based on a
>> _choice_ I made.
>>
>> Can you explain to me where _I_ have the problem understanding the word
>> use?
>> I cant really see it.
>
>
> So, you don't carry anything else? No ATM card, credit cards,
> membership cards? An insurance card so you don't die while waiting for
> the hospital to make sure they will be paid for their services?
>

I feel like I am stuck in a time warp here.

I went for a jog today and I carried no cashpoint card, no driving licence,
no membership card, no credit card.

Each day (or when I can be bothered), I choose what I will carry with me.

Being _forced_ to carry an ID card is a different matter. Do you see this?

If compulsory ID cards were in force and I had been stopped out jogging, I
would have broken the law and been subject to arrest. That is not a choice
in _any_ dictionary I have ever come across. Do you have a different one?

Now, back to the question which you so deftly ignored Can you explain to me
where _I_ have the problem understanding the word [choice] use?


From: T Wake on

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:kurtullman-F089CF.08100906102006(a)customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx...
> In article <4525DA2C.7CFA4E5E(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>>
>> > So, you don't carry anything else?...........
>> > .........An insurance card so you don't die while waiting for
>> > the hospital to make sure they will be paid for their services?
>>
>> You really don't know much about the UK do you ?
>>
>> Medical services are free.
>>
> You pay for them through taxes (among other ways). They ain't free no
> matter what the politicians tell you.

Ok, free at the point of sale.


From: T Wake on

<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>>> news:p62dnVv9ou9UFbjYRVnyig(a)pipex.net...
>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:r3fVg.8959$GR.3051(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure about spelling, but I've read some very well-researched
>>>>> serious scholarly linguistic articles that say that the British
>>>>> English accent at the time of the American colonies was very much
>>>>> closer to the current New England accent than to the current variety
>>>>> of British accents. It seems speech in the "colonies" was and is much
>>>>> more conservative than speech in the mother land. I don't remember
>>>>> what their evidence was, there are obviously no audio tapes to
>>>>> compare.
>>>>
>>>> It has the potential (and that dreaded "ring of truth") however the
>>>> reality is possibly very, very far from the case.
>>>>
>>>> Both sets of languages have had an equal time to "evolve" into their
>>>> current form. The US has been much more influenced by immigrant
>>>> linguistics over that period than England has, so I am inclined to
>>>> doubt the validity of the claim.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect both languages are equally distant from the English spoken in
>>>> (say) 1775.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know, those were all *exactly* the same response I had when I
>>> first heard the thesis. But I do remember that the evidence was
>>> convincing. Dammit all, I wish I could remember where I read/saw that.
>>> I don't expect you to take my word for it, but to me, it really was more
>>> convincing than I've managed to convey.
>>
>> It would be interesting to see it.
>>
>>>>> Some linguists even interpret the shifts in England as related to
>>>>> blueblood Londoners putting on airs, and that accent subsequently
>>>>> catching on in other parts of the country. I suspect this last part
>>>>> is a bit of a stretch, but the whole thing is an interesting thesis.
>>>>> I find it fascinating to think about how people spoke in the past, and
>>>>> how language has evolved. Puts a whole new perspective in the various
>>>>> new inner-city lexicons and pronunciations that have developed, even
>>>>> in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Languages evolve all the time. Welsh is a good example.
>>>
>>> Yep, that's what I find so fascinating. So, did Welsh get all the extra
>>> consonants that would otherwise have gone with the vowels ("u") you
>>> English stole? :^)
>>>
>>
>> Yes. It is even funnier listening to their conversation because all the
>> modern words are in English. So you get "bable bable Television bable
>> bable microwave cooker bable bable" and so on.
>
>
> Kind of like reading a Korean/Japanese/Chinese chemistry patent. A lot of
> stuff that looks like Martian (for all I know), interspersed with chemical
> names.
>

LOL, I can imagine. I still get that feeling when I read physics
texts.......... (I really was a bad student).