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From: Eeyore on 6 Oct 2006 16:01 Kurt Ullman wrote: > In article <4525DA2C.7CFA4E5E(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > > > > > So, you don't carry anything else?........... > > > .........An insurance card so you don't die while waiting for > > > the hospital to make sure they will be paid for their services? > > > > You really don't know much about the UK do you ? > > > > Medical services are free. > > > You pay for them through taxes (among other ways). They ain't free no > matter what the politicians tell you. There ar no medical bills to worry about. Graham
From: Michael A. Terrell on 6 Oct 2006 16:02 John Fields wrote: > > On 06 Oct 2006 03:11:24 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic(a)aon.at> > wrote: > > >We have a phrase here, it goes, "when two are struggling laughs the > >third". > > --- > I like that! Fearless John has the Demented Donkey pinned to the mat and in a headlock! The newsgroup goes wild! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: T Wake on 6 Oct 2006 16:03 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:uq5di25h88s74o4gi0du8ak3gunhpm1rth(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:50:02 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>message >>news:qkrai2hvpp43t4lpu1ttca9tpq8ueb94qr(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's >>>>highways? >>>>That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every >>>>person in the country than is terrorism. >>> >>> 3000 people died at the WTC. Three orders of magnitude from that is 3 >>> million. We kill about 40K people a year in car accidents. >>> >> >>3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by Islamic >>terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years). How many >>have died in car accidents in that time? >> >>That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as >>many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack. >>That >>is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by >>anyone's >>standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal >>risk in life. >> >>Amazing really. > > --- > I really don't think that's fair. Possibly true. > In the case of 9/11, a premeditated series of events was set into > play which killed thousands of people, never mind the monetary loss. > > In the case of traffic deaths, those are accidents. They result in > lives lost numbering in the tens of thousands annually, but they're > still "just" accidents. > Yes, however there are measures which can be put in place that have been demonstrated to reduce the risk of death or serious injury in the event of an accident. These cost money, but accidental death and injury costs money as well - granted a different part of society has to bear that bill. Traffic accidents aside, how many people get murdered each year? How many are raped? How many die from preventable disease? Being frightened of terrorism is similar to fear of flying. Plane crashes are very, very rare but when one happens it kills lots of people. Getting fixated on that as the "big risk" takes the chance that people will be blinded to the real dangers they face day in, day out.
From: T Wake on 6 Oct 2006 16:04 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:aj7di25jjq6csl8uaqrkbpgljp2mg0i0os(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:11:58 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>John Larkin wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> >Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's >>> >highways? >>> >That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every >>> >person in the country than is terrorism. >>> >>> 3000 people died at the WTC >> >>And you still haven't got over it. > > --- > And a lot of Jews haven't gotten over Auschwitz either. Is that a > bad thing? > Proportionality issues aside, yes.
From: lucasea on 6 Oct 2006 16:04
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:IcOdnaP9I7mBNrvYRVnyqQ(a)pipex.net... > There are lots of people in the UK who can't point to the Falkland Islands > on a map. There are even more who can't point to Uzbekistan or the > Democratic Republic of Congo. > > I think that is sad. > > I can only assume it is the same in the US. (And the same in Germany, > France, Uzbekistan, DROC etc.....) Worse. In the US, 49% of the people who cannot find New York State on a map. *49%*. *New Freakin' York*, fer Chrissakes. Jeezus. It goes beyond sad. Those Leno skits are funny, and are obviously not a candid representation of the people he meets. But the reason they are so funny is that they represent a fact about the general geographic illiteracy of Americans, that would be funny if it weren't so sad. The statistics are out there. Read them and weep. http://www.edven.com/news_us_geo_illiteracy_stats.html This is a commercial site, but these statistics are real--they were widely reported when the study came out a few years ago. How can people continue to yammer on about how much they think they know about Muslims, and what their culture is like, and what their goals and aspirations are...WHEN THEY DON"T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE????? Eric Lucas |