From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Oct 06 12:40:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than
> >>>their Muslim counterparts.
> >>
> >>Yeah, all those Southern Baptist suicide bombers.
> >
> >Sigh! Wait. If this gets results it will be tried.
> >Have you not noticed what's been happening lately?
> >And it's not just Southern Baptist.
>
> Judiasism and Christianity have generally considered suicide to be a
> sin. Radical Islam considers it to be a holy act. It also helps get
> rid of the young males, making the world safe for lecherous old-fart
> polygamists.

Suicide is a sin in Islam AIUI.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> I have stood in Northern Ireland while protesters threw petrol bombs let
> alone rocks. Firing back was not an option we were simply there to contain.
> It was made very clear to everyone that firing without having first been
> _fired_ upon would result in a police arrest and trial (murder if required).
> Shooting people because they are throwing stones at you is simply wrong.
>
> If legislation came into force which demanded I worship in Church every
> Sunday I would happily throw rocks at soldiers in protest. If they killed me
> as a result it would, if nothing else, highlight to others how unjust the
> system had become.

You would have become a martyr.

Now compare with how the suicide bombers see themselves !

Graham


From: Eeyore on


Daniel Mandic wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
> > American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so
> > than their Muslim counterparts.
> >
> > Graham
>
> Ah, now I understand you.
>
> Lower-Austria for example (Katlholics -hicks) do not allow hindered
> to visit the first communion.

Hindered ?

Graham

From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:05:07 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:07:41 +0100, "T Wake"
><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
>>news:0h7aj25ckalb1dr630lm9apu323h2hj3ah(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:45:03 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
>>> <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:50:18 -0700, John Larkin
>>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:38:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:i9n8j29atodlsous5hl3bpuk1avrj0s9a4(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:39:16 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nicely written.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ever heard of a dinky, crappy little liberal arts college called Kent
>>>>>>>>State?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how you intend that to be applied, of course, since you
>>>>>>> don't say what you are thinking here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry if that sounded snotty--no hidden agenda, just the obvious example
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>troops being ordered into a situation and attacking their own people.
>>>>>
>>>>>Somehow it never occurred to me to throw rocks at armed National Guard
>>>>>troops.
>>>>
>>>>And by that comment do you mean to justify the application of deadly
>>>>force and the taking of lives in this particular circumstance? Just
>>>>curious.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course not. But if you do really, really stupid things, you can get
>>> hurt, no different from poking a pit bull with a stick.
>>
>>It is sad that your national guard are pit bulls. Are stones really that
>>frightening for them?
>>
>>It is sad that people are pushed to the point at which they feel they need
>>to throw stones at Soldiers to get their voices heard. Isn't democracy
>>wonderful.
>
>How does hurling rocks get "their voices heard"?

Wrong question, John. There were a lot of people there who did NOT
throw rocks. Only _some_ threw rocks.

And a separate question, entirely, John. Do you imagine that only
those throwing the rocks are the ones who were injured or killed by
professional military action?

Jon


>>> As I said, I
>>> wouldn't throw rocks at people with guns; I don't fancy being in the
>>> right, and dead.
>>
>>It is fortunate your countries founding fathers didn't hold this viewpoint.
>
>They threw rocks at people with guns?
>
>John
From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:07:41 +0100, "T Wake"
>
> >It is sad that people are pushed to the point at which they feel they need
> >to throw stones at Soldiers to get their voices heard. Isn't democracy
> >wonderful.
>
> How does hurling rocks get "their voices heard"?

Are you really being that obtuse ?

Graham