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From: T Wake on 17 Oct 2006 17:46 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45354B0A.FFBA6F96(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> I have stood in Northern Ireland while protesters threw petrol bombs let >> alone rocks. Firing back was not an option we were simply there to >> contain. >> It was made very clear to everyone that firing without having first been >> _fired_ upon would result in a police arrest and trial (murder if >> required). >> Shooting people because they are throwing stones at you is simply wrong. >> >> If legislation came into force which demanded I worship in Church every >> Sunday I would happily throw rocks at soldiers in protest. If they killed >> me >> as a result it would, if nothing else, highlight to others how unjust the >> system had become. > > You would have become a martyr. Hopefully, but I also hope that if the situation ever comes to it I will find it within myself to make what ever sacrifices are needed to defend what _I_ see as the "right thing to do." At least I dont see suicide as a "sin" or a "holy act." :-) Also hopefully, and especially so because I am a firm believer in democracy, the situation would never arise. > Now compare with how the suicide bombers see themselves ! Sad isn't it.
From: Daniel Mandic on 17 Oct 2006 17:48 Eeyore wrote: > Hindered ? > > Graham Handicapped. Mongolids for example. Here in Town also Mongolids can do a first communion. And a priest here has been nominated for the Best Austrian 2006. I hope he wins :)... I know that Church where he lives from my Kindergarten Times and the Primary School Time (Everything in one Area...). Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 18:13 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:57:10 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Oct 06 11:50:44 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >Pushing in certain areas is not the best way to prevent future >> >messes. I've found that the only way for people to learn how >> >not make new messes is to have them clean up the ones they >> >already made. >> >> >> Excellent. Care to assign cleanup duties in the Middle East and >> Africa? > >Which bits of Africa did you have in mind ? > Well, let's see. We could start with the Belgian Congo, and maybe Rhodesia, perhaps Cote D'Ivorie and German East Africa. John
From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 18:14 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:50:34 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> They threw rocks at people with guns? > >Figuratively speaking, yes. An act of defiance towards a superior, >oppressive, organisation. Pretty much the same thing. > only much, much stupider. John
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 17 Oct 2006 18:19
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:48:25 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:009aj2dksthbu9fopngsr64nhfofi1dnjl(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 17 Oct 06 12:40:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <odi8j25ttpiuu9t6tbg4jne9cdut88qmin(a)4ax.com>, >>> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:14 +0100, Eeyore >>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >>>>>> >moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >>>>>> >a crime. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are lying. >>>>> >>>>>I suspect it's what he learnt at Church. >>>>> >>>>>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than >>>their >>>>>Muslim counterparts. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Yeah, all those Southern Baptist suicide bombers. >>> >>>Sigh! Wait. If this gets results it will be tried. >>>Have you not noticed what's been happening lately? >>>And it's not just Southern Baptist. >>> >> >> Judiasism and Christianity have generally considered suicide to be a >> sin. Radical Islam considers it to be a holy act. > >An interpretation issue really. It would not be unreasonable for Radical >Christians or Jews to redefine some aspects of their faith to enable suicide >for a just cause. The bible has killing anyone a sin, Christians have been >fairly free with the definition of this though. I already cited a web site where you can see how Christian organizations could justify this as holy. And there is 'Jesus Camp,' the movie. Jon |