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From: unsettled on 21 Oct 2006 09:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <58GdnewlesO5CKvYRVnygA(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eh536o$8qk_004(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>In article <uqkaj29qqainbc7l4mc8i51e40dbj8cf56(a)4ax.com>, >>> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:57:10 +0100, Eeyore >>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>John Larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, 17 Oct 06 11:50:44 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Pushing in certain areas is not the best way to prevent future >>>>>>>messes. I've found that the only way for people to learn how >>>>>>>not make new messes is to have them clean up the ones they >>>>>>>already made. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Excellent. Care to assign cleanup duties in the Middle East and >>>>>>Africa? >>>>> >>>>>Which bits of Africa did you have in mind ? >>>>> >>>> >>>>Well, let's see. We could start with the Belgian Congo, and maybe >>>>Rhodesia, perhaps Cote D'Ivorie and German East Africa. >>> >>>I think Liberia is key but I'm not sure. It would be productive >>>if the countries in Africa were left alone. 0>> >>To kill each other? Strikes me as a reasonable idea. Let them all kill each >>other, then when the dust settles we can kill the one or two survivors and >>take all the diamonds. > > > A lot of recent killing is the hangover of the Cold War. Not true, IMO. African hatreds are much like American ones, passed from one generation to the next without understanding, as in "Damn Yankees burned the south!" Tribal hatreds go back many generations and thrive partly because of their verbal traditions. > The UN > has not helped since it seems to be admirable to keep the > former third world in its place by making them welfare countries > and punishing those who refuse such handouts. Please consider the fact that the third world had exactly the same opportunities as the first world over a period of several millenia. They aren't welfare countries because of us and the UN, they remain welfare countries despite us and the UN. This all comes back to mindsets and cultural values. You'll find that within those countries are some extremely wealthy families. The local population has a sense that those rich folks are crooked and taking advantage of the poor. The simple fact is that in every population of national size you'll have a few individuals who are truly entrepreneurs. Sometimes the government and/or the people manage to pull them down and redistribute their wealth. For examples of all of the above, visit Appalachia. For a minature slightly more entertaining version, watch the movie _Zorba the Greek_.
From: Eeyore on 21 Oct 2006 09:59 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> I don't understand your question. In both religions, the > >> extremist leaders cannot have their followers think for > >> themselves; > > > >Both ? Which both is this ? > > Islam and Christianity. I thought that was what this drift > of the thread was talking about. So you admit Christianity has extremist leaders too ? > >> all critical thinking skills are dangerous > >> to their grasp of power. The Muslims who fear this loss > >> see Western civlization as the culprit (EMF media cannot > >> be blocked out). > > > >LOL. Muslims are quite capable of using electronic media themselves. > > That's the irony of their preaching to get back to the old ways. > The Unibomber suffered the same thinking schism. Uh ???? You mean the Unabomber ? This had nothing to do with religion AFAIK. > >> Notice what has happened in Somalia > >> recently. > > > >Can you be more specific ? > > The regular people were not allowed to watch a soccer match Who are these 'regular ppl' who weren't allowed to watch soccer ? > (TV shows human images which is not allowed in Islam). Now > the regular people are starting to say no to these extremists. Uh ???? You're babbling ! > >> The residents in that area are now sorting > >> out which culture will exist. > > > >That is indeed for those who live there. > > > >> The US' religious right has similar fears. Note their > >> tactics. They chose a political tactic and targeted > >> schools. It's blowing up in their faces in most areas > >> (they're either getting fired or voted out). I don't > >> know what these types in Europe are doing. I only get > >> hints from Pope news. > > > >Religion doesn't have that much power in most of Europe. There is no > >parallel. > > Europe is more susceptible than any other place in the Western > world (that I can think of). You certainly have forgotten > all of your history. You're clueless. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 21 Oct 2006 08:56 In article <UJLZg.16284$e66.2136(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eh7ksa$8ss_018(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <bFtZg.15970$e66.4970(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eh53ce$8qk_005(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <OF7Zg.17270$6S3.4818(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:eh2k1e$8qk_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>> In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated >>>>>>>> knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying >>>>>>>> most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of >>>>>>>> destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A) Insanity >>>>>>> >>>>>>>B) Desire for power, control, and wealth >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror. >>>>> >>>>>OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth". >>>>>Witness >>>>>the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election >>>>>campaign. >>>> >>>> I am. More alarming is the message of the Democrats who keep implying >>>> that there isn't any problem. >>> >>>Citation, please. In your zeal to support the current administration, >>>you're not listening carefully. >> >> Listen to any of them. > >Again, cite one please. You're not listening carefully. I gave you one. Clinton's ramblings this past week in Mass. I no longer remember which night it was. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 21 Oct 2006 10:00 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Assume that those virgins do not get replaced. > Now heaven is enternal look but don't touch. I would assume > that this would actully be hell for males. Are you seriously mentally ill ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 21 Oct 2006 09:00
In article <57udnU2j2uYdBqrYnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eh7ksa$8ss_018(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <bFtZg.15970$e66.4970(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eh53ce$8qk_005(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <OF7Zg.17270$6S3.4818(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:eh2k1e$8qk_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>> In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated >>>>>>>> knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying >>>>>>>> most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of >>>>>>>> destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A) Insanity >>>>>>> >>>>>>>B) Desire for power, control, and wealth >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror. >>>>> >>>>>OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth". >>>>>Witness >>>>>the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election >>>>>campaign. >>>> >>>> I am. More alarming is the message of the Democrats who keep implying >>>> that there isn't any problem. >>> >>>Citation, please. In your zeal to support the current administration, >>>you're not listening carefully. >> >> Listen to any of them. > > >Any and all conversations? Are they really that repetative? Yes, the public speeches of the Democrats campaigning are that repetitive. You should pay especial attention to everything they don't talk about. Details having to do with national security is one of them. They say not a single word about nuclear power plants. These things take a decade to build. To be indepedent of oil usage for the power grid, dozens of generating plants need to be started getting built right now at this second. These insane people don't say a single thing about it. <snip snideness> /BAH |