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From: T Wake on 5 Nov 2006 10:38 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eikjp2$8ss_004(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <454CA33F.20867B1F(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>> >When people I know go to [Insert European Destination Here] on Holiday, > they >>> >will often shop for things as well. >>> > >>> >Isn't it strange. >>> > >>> >Also, we actually do have shopping malls here in Europe. >>> > >>> >What a wonderful world we live in. >>> >>> Think about how mobile people how work are. When they >>> go visit a foreign for their jobs, they experience new >>> foods, products, etc. They bring back enough and their >>> neighbors see the stuff or taste it. So now they would >>> like to have some. The next time a friend of theirs goes >>> to that country, he a grocery list. Eventually when the >>> authors of the list go on vacation, part of the constraint >>> of their plans is go somewhere so they can stock up on X >>> product. >> >>There's no real need to do that in the UK since we have the ingredients >>for > most >>world cooking available in the shops here. >> >>That's just one aspect of having such a broad mix of races living here. >> >>Heck, I've even eaten traditional Zambian style cooking here ! >> >>Popular restaurants here include Chinese, Indian, Italian, Spanish, Greek, >>Turkish, Thai, Japanese, French, Moroccan etc etc ..... There's even >>Swedish > food >>available ( at Ikea ! ) and you can find Swiss cooking !!! of all things >>at > the >>Swiss Cente in London. More 'exotic' eating out ( rather fewer >>restaurants ) >>include Russian and Hungarian. > > What?! No Mexican food? Oddly, Mexican (and Mexican restaurants) are common enough in the UK that most people tend to ignore them as an "ethnic" dish - a bit like the way Curries are pretty much British food now. (I've never found one in India like the ones British people think are "Indian" food...). There are a multitude of Mexican restaurants - enough to support at least one chain. On the flipside, if you like spicy Mexican food then Portuguese restaurants are well worth looking into.
From: unsettled on 5 Nov 2006 10:43 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <e4614$454b8ce0$4fe77ae$1746(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour >>>>>>>groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the >>>>>>>Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the >>>>>>>store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk >>>>>>>a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to >>>>>>>look at a remarkable feat of the human species. >>>>>> >>>>>>Americans ??? >>>>> >>>>>Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had >>>>>new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who >>>>>don't know how work gets done. >>>> >>>>I can't imagine what goes through their minds. >>> >>> >>>Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread. >> >>You betcha. New money, such as it is. > > > I still haven't been able to put a name to it and I've been > trying. My latest is royalty; these were the people who > trained from birth on how to run things. People with > "new money" only seem to know how spend it rather than make > stuff. However, I don't have this nailed down. It's like > that game whackamole; just when you think you've got something > figured out, up pops a new wrinkle to blast all your conclusions > out of the water. That's what happens when you deal with people > thingies; computers are so much saner. > /BAH It is difficult to get one's mind around this, but I'll make a little stab at it. When I was young, one of the books I read started out with a park scene. At the edge, in a brownstone, was a pediatrician's office. Outside were a half dozen shiny new baby carriages, and one older one. The older one belonged to a wealthy family. The lower classes bought a cheap, glitzy carriage for each child born to them, and the cheap ones don't last. The upper class woman purchased an exceptionally good carriage, which outlasted all her children. The new rich carry their mentality out of the impovrished lower classes and never quite figure out that their ingrained wants, desires, and ingrained behavior are no longer appropriate. Here's a typical example: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14930823/ (For your benefit, since you don't browse, BAH, large dog bone shaped pieces of wood were sent to celebrities like Oprah and Trump, 40 total, for their signature, then those will be auctioned off to raise money for an aniimal shelter.) New money signs and sends it back. Old money sends back the bone unsigned and sends a generous check. New money vs. old money is in essence a completely different approach to life. Old money continues to create wealth, usually quietly, for future generations. New money, when they actually think beyond tomorrow, creates new wealth in splashy ways. Also see the cable TV shows _The Anna Nicole Smith Show_ and _Growing up Gotti_.
From: T Wake on 5 Nov 2006 10:44 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:sBa3h.4970$B31.2627(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > There is a certain musical instrument shop (Renaissance Workshop Co.) in > Bradford, from which I have ordered a number of instruments and kits, > since there is a dearth of good makers of renaissance woodwinds in the US. As a total aside, do you know of where I can get CD/MP3s of Medieval or Renaissance woodwind music?
From: lucasea on 5 Nov 2006 10:46 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454DB91B.403D212F(a)hotmail.com... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > Can you get US comprehensive ( no exclusions ) medical insurance for >> > $2418 >> > regardless of age or medical history ? >> >> Of course not. However, since his/her employer pays his/hers, all he >> knows >> is it's free and if we were to nationalize, it would cost him/her a >> paltry >> extra 4 % of his/her income. Such simple-minded thinking, along with the >> attitude "I've got mine, go find your own somewhere else" is what keeps >> us >> from adopting a realistic system of health care...that and the drug and >> insurance lobbies, that plant such misanthropic thinking in peoples' >> heads >> and panders to their basest selfish emotions. > > I just checked out Blue Cross HMO Select ( California ). I see the cost > varies > according to where you live ! Probably to account for differing costs of living in different areas. Salaries of some professions can vary by a factor of 2 or more in different areas of the country because of the local cost of living. > Visits to the Doctor still cost $25 and nothing seems to be 100% covered. Yes, that's typically how insurance has come to work in the US. In part, the genesis of this is the fact that health insurance has become almost ubiquitous as a part of the employment compensation package of benefits that most large companies offer their employees. It once covered a very large portion of anything that a person could have happen to them, but as time has gone on and medical care costs have gone up ridiculously high, companies have been putting more and more of the cost of their insurance onto the employees. This includes monthly premium payments (still only about 1/10 of the total premium, or so), co-payments at doctor visits (typically $15, as high as $25 in some places), and only covering 90%, 80% or even 50% of some procedures. Incidentally, I think the idea of a copayment is a good one. It's really a minimal cost, but it makes the patient think twice about going to the doctor every time they have a sniffle. Some people are serious hypochondriacs, and would end up costing large amounts of money and clogging up their doctors with visits if there wasn't some small incentive to make sure they really need care before getting it. > Between $249 and $475 PCM for a single person of my age. Say $365 avg - > that's > $4380 pa ( ?2305 ) - add in uncovered costs and that's easily twice the UK > NHS > cost. Great system, ain't it? I suspect large corporations get price breaks for the insurance they provide their employees, but it's still a large amount of money. > No cover over 64 it seems ! What happens then ? Medicare, typically. Eric Lucas
From: T Wake on 5 Nov 2006 10:54
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454DB448.8FB09B76(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message. >> >>In article <454B8F8F.58262328(a)hotmail.com>, >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>There never have been any restrictions on what you can buy since >> >>>rationing >> >>>from WW2 ended in the 50s. >> >> >> >>It didn't end in the UK. Thatcher was still removing vestiges of >> >>WWII price and labor controls when she was PM. >> > >> > You might actually want to listen to the citizens of the UK in this >> > discussion for this data. They know what they're talking about--you >> > appear >> > not to. Or did you read in one of your books that there was rationing >> > in >> > the UK more recently than the 50s? Your assumptions again need a huge >> > dose >> > of actual data. >> > >> >>>You're a funny old girl you know ! >> >> >> >>Once in a great while I'm funny. However, I'm old all the time. >> > >> > That would go a long way to explain your odd worldview, and your >> > inability >> > to change it by incorporating data that contradict your assumptions. >> >> The really nice thing about experience is that eventually >> you'll become more like BAH than you realize. I'm old >> enough, and experienced enough, to laugh at you now. > > Really ? > > As the years have passed I've found I'm actually more open to new ideas. Maybe unsettled is talking about senile dementia? |