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From: Eeyore on 5 Nov 2006 12:23 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote > >> > > >> > There is a certain musical instrument shop (Renaissance Workshop Co.) > >> > in > >> > Bradford, from which I have ordered a number of instruments and kits, > >> > since there is a dearth of good makers of renaissance woodwinds in the > >> > US. > >> > >> As a total aside, do you know of where I can get CD/MP3s of Medieval or > >> Renaissance woodwind music? > > > > You might find someone who can help in uk.rec.audio or even > > rec.audio.opinion. > > Cool - will investigate. Thanks. Just beware of the mayhem in r.a.o ! Graham
From: T Wake on 5 Nov 2006 12:33 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454E14FD.6F0F5ADB(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> >>>How about talking to some actual Muslims before you make ridiculous >> >>>statements like "they grow up in a culture of violence". >> >> I think I'm talking to one here. > > LOL. You don't pay much attention. I observe no religion. I find the > concept quite > perplexing given the ability to think rationally.. > > >> >>Start by asking them about female circumcision. >> > >> > >> > That's a traditional African practice not Islamic. >> >> "Although it is practiced by African Muslims, it is also known to exist >> throughout the Middle East, though it is veiled in secrecy, unlike in >> parts of Africa, where it is practiced relatively openly." >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_circumcision > > See another post where it was stated to be practiced by African Christians > too. The Wikipedia article is very, very badly written but if unsettled had read it properly he would have seen the sentence: "The majority of Muslim countries (except in parts of sub-Saharan Africa) do not practice it [15]." The map even shows Christian Ethiopia as having a 95%+ incidence. >> >>Then ask them >> >>about female rights to ownership of property, female education, >> >>divorce laws. >> >> > That will depend on the laws of the country they live in. >> >> Muslim countries, not secular nations with a primarily >> Muslim population. > > Is Turkey a 'Muslim' country by your definition then for example ? Or > Tunisia ? Or > Egypt ? Unsettled brings in the ever present "get out clause." Any country which doesnt meet his criteria gets declared "Non-Islamic." >> >>Ask what countries females can drive in. >> >> > How about naming the ones where they can't. I can only think of Saudi. > > I'm waiting for your reply. Please enter below. > > >> >>Ask them >> >>how many western women are trying to get custody of their children >> >>after a divorce. >> >> > What's that about ? How does that relate to Islam ? >> >> If you don't understand now, no one can explain it to you. >> This is an issue that's been in the mainstream news for >> decades. > > Not here it hasn't. It happens once or twice every few years. About the same as women trying to get custody from fathers who have absconded to Christian nations as well. Most of the Islamic countries which this particular claim applies to were declared "non-Islamic" earlier on. Cake anyone? >> >>How about the practice of chopping the hand off a thief, or >> >>hanging a family member who dishonors the family? >> >> > There aren't many countries wher this is allowed. ISTRC the hand being >> > chopped >> > off goes way back before Islam btw. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_in_Islamic_Countries > > Whilst such abuses of human rights are despicable, I'm equally incensed at > what the > USA is currently doing to roll them back like legalised torture by > 'exporting' your > prisoners ( to Islamic countries quite often ! ). > > Graham > >
From: T Wake on 5 Nov 2006 12:34 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454E1B46.8785E923(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: >> >> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> Selective editing of posts by both of you as >> a "debating tactic" invalidates your output. > > I trim the stuff that's ages old and needs no further repeating and /or > stuff > I'm not replying to. Both are simply clutter. > > This is recommended practice for usenet. > > I always retain the important contextual stuff where relevant. Once more unsettled demonstrates a specialist line in ironic posts.
From: unsettled on 5 Nov 2006 12:36 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>T Wake wrote: >> >> >>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >>Selective editing of posts by both of you as >>a "debating tactic" invalidates your output. > > > I trim the stuff that's ages old and needs no further repeating and /or stuff > I'm not replying to. Both are simply clutter. > > This is recommended practice for usenet. > > I always retain the important contextual stuff where relevant. Nonsense. You trimmed the following which was inconvenient for you to discuss. "Although it is practiced by African Muslims, it is also known to exist throughout the Middle East, though it is veiled in secrecy, unlike in parts of Africa, where it is practiced relatively openly. "
From: unsettled on 5 Nov 2006 12:39
Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>> >>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>T Wake posted that his local Tesco has it [buttermilk] btw. >>>>> >>>>>Tesco is a very popular UK supermarket chain btw. >>>> >>>>Been there, no buttermilk in the three I visited. >>> >>>http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061028151602AAlA1dL >>>Where can I get buttermilk in the uk? >>> >>>14 answers >>> >>>Clearly not much demand here but all the larger supermarkets should have it. >> >>Clearly you missed the fact this was an example of >>a larger unavailability scenario. > > > It's not. You're making things up again. You have provided a single example of a > product that's not widely available in the UK ( because ppl aren't much interested > in it ) ! > > You also can't get Cornish Clotted Cream in the USA btw AIUI ! Just try it. > > There's little demand for buttermilk so it's not widely stocked. Simple really. > It's 'the market' in action. > > If you wanted it in every shop you'd want a socialist system perhaps. You've lost track of what the discussion was about. |