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From: Darren Salt on 8 Oct 2009 14:47 I demand that spike1(a)freenet.co.uk may or may not have written... [snip] > whether you like it or not, PREPARE FOR TOPIC DRIFT. Topic, Drifter? <munch> -- | Darren Salt | linux at youmustbejoking | nr. Ashington, | Doon | using Debian GNU/Linux | or ds ,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army | + Output *more* particulate pollutants. BUFFER AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING. "One can swim in... moonlight?" - Data
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 8 Oct 2009 16:13 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: >> Assassinating Adolf Hitler after his party was well established in >> power might have made things worse as he probably would have been >> replaced by someone more competent who would have elevated the dead >> Hitler to godhood: > > Wanna-Be Sys Admin writes: >> Valid point, though I assume he was already a martyr either way to >> some of the people really into his ideals. > > That's not what I mean. If he had been replaced by someone much more > competent the war might have been much worse. He had some very sharp > people working for him but the results they were able to achieve were > limited by his erratic behavior. Imagine Nazi Germany run by Goering > with Rommel as minister of war. Yes, someone not so suicidal about who they'll invade and when would probably have extended the war. -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 8 Oct 2009 16:14 notbob wrote: > On 2009-10-08, Wanna-Be Sys Admin <sysadmin(a)example.com> wrote: > >> threads instead. Trying once again to "impress" people that don't >> know > > He's not trying to impress anyone. He's baiting anyone. > Unfortunately, he always succeeds. > > nb If he's baiting people, then why does he run off when anyone replies and just start a new thread with the same content? I've noticed that after the 4th or 5th re-post he makes with the exact same content, if people leave that new thread alone, he moves onto a slightly different one. It seems clear that he wants to be left alone to post what he wants to post, without anyone questioning or exposing him. -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 8 Oct 2009 16:23 TJ wrote: > Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: >> Keith Keller wrote: >> >>> On 2009-10-08, Wanna-Be Sys Admin <sysadmin(a)example.com> wrote: >>>> It's not like Sid is being invited to engage people. >>> Every followup to one of his posts is an invitation for him to >>> ''engage''. >>> >>> --keith >>> >> >> Ironically, he almost always ignores any follow ups and just starts >> new >> threads instead. Trying once again to "impress" people that don't >> know anything about the subject (or him). > > I frequented the group that I believe Aragorn spoke of, where he was > himself chastised and shunned (well, maybe "shunned" is a bit harsh, > but it conveys the thoughts of some) for defending himself against a > troll. Aragorn left the group for a good year. Shortly after Aragorn > left, the troll was no longer engaged, lost interest, and left. I just > googled him, and either he's left Usenet entirely, or he has changed > his pseudonym once more. When Aragorn returned to the group, he was > welcomed with open arms. > > The same thing has happened on another group I frequent, with an even > bigger buffoon than Sidney. For years, this guy posted right and left > on a single rant, every time anything came up that he could even > remotely connect to his "cause." People engaged him every time, and > the more they engaged, the more he came back, with the same one-note > rant. Finally, they all gave up, realizing that he discredited himself > with every post. The guy hasn't been heard from in that group in six > months. > > TJ I realize the typical method and reasons for some people to troll, but as I stated, Sid seems different, in that he doesn't seem to want people to disagree, point out flaws or expose his ignorance. Regardless, what difference does it make? I'm not planning to respond to any further posts made by him, and perhaps if other people do the same we'll see if he just leaves or not. I doubt he will though. I don't think it's accurate to assume that every troll just wants attention and responses. Some legitimately do want to post anything they want, when they want, acting like they own the group and won't relent, ever, for any reason. I think that's why he gets so defensive, and doesn't reply to people's responses. Surely that is a possibility, that he's not just looking for replies, he doesn't seem to be that type of troll from what I've observed. So, let him post without anyone calling him on his posts, and let's see what happens. That also means no one can reply to warn a new user that might reply and think his advice is sound, else it will set Alan (Sid) off anyway. Then, let's see how long people that know better can bear seeing these newbies reply to and want to maybe use Sid's broken information/advice or commands and see how long people can allow him to get away with it. After all, if he doesn't go away when being ignored by the regulars, then he'll be posting potentially dangerous information for new users that don't know better, unchecked, unfiltered and he gets exactly what he wants. Sure, we can all just warn a user if we see any dangerous suggestions to their data/system by Sid (Alan), but we all know that's "what he wants", so if that happens, what do people suggest? Since it doesn't matter if it's due to dangerous, inaccurate or just crazy ranting, any reply about him or in response will apparently be what he wants, so why bother ignoring him at all? Not that it matters, I'm not suggesting anyone even bother anymore with replies (since it's only going to annoy the other regulars, so there's no winning anyway, once this bullshit starts, that's it, the group is just that much more worthless). Because if that happens, he may as well own the group by bullying and annoying everyone into letting him post whatever the hell he wants. If that's not the case, then sure, he might go away. I'm just saying, what if (and my observations suggest to me that posting without being called on his ignorance is what he actually wants). I'm done. -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 8 Oct 2009 16:26
Sidney Lambe wrote: > The wannabee technocrats just hate it when anyone criticizes > the GDEs Ironically, few people here seem to really recommend or talk about GDE's other than you. Personally, I use CLI about 14 hours every day and the GDE maybe 20 minutes a day at home, just because I like a graphical interface to launch some apps (not that I couldn't do it from the CLI, but so what?) It's just funny, because no one is upset because you criticize GDEs, people just don't like you, because you suck (you are ignorant, arrogant, clueless, unskilled, stupid and weird). That said, you can have it, I'm out of here. -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything. |