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From: TJ on 7 Oct 2009 19:19 Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: > I don't like the death > penalty, because there's a chance someone's innocent, or perhaps > mentally lacking, but for people that did the crimes, have no remorse > and would do it again, something horrific, I do agree in those cases > that it is appropriate. I actually don't think Sid is someone I'd > sentence to death, but I sure would be okay with taking away his > "freedom" of speech (yeah, that's right, and a whole other can of > worms). Sure is. When you start taking away the right to free speech simply because you disagree with what the person says, then *nobody* has that freedom, including you. Better to keep such things in the light of day where they will wither than to drive them underground where they can fester and grow. TJ -- All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king. J.R.R.Tolkien
From: TJ on 7 Oct 2009 19:26 Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: > > I had consided that, that is some nasty dust I don't want in my lungs, > in my food or water, or any food that grew in those ashes. I say we > just quarter him and send each part to a corner of the world. Um, "the world" (by which I assume you mean the planet called "Earth" by its inhabitants) is an oblate spheroid. It has no corners. Stickler for accuracy TJ -- All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king. J.R.R.Tolkien
From: John Hasler on 7 Oct 2009 19:34 Aragorn writes: > However, I would [not] have opposed the assassination of Adolf Hitler > during the time of his active life, since at that time he presented a > clear and present danger to the wellbeing of everyone and to people's > lives. Assassinating Adolf Hitler after his party was well established in power might have made things worse as he probably would have been replaced by someone more competent who would have elevated the dead Hitler to godhood: you would need to have gotten the entire leadership. Assassinating him before then, in the absence of any overt acts, would simply have been the murder of one of many German politicians propounding equally loony ideas. We might (or might not) be better off if it had been done, but we wouldn't know it. > This is a different scenario from an execution. Yes. It is the type of murder usually called an "act of war". Happens every day. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
From: Keith Keller on 7 Oct 2009 19:47 On 2009-10-07, TJ <TJ(a)noneofyour.business> wrote: > Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: > >> I had consided that, that is some nasty dust I don't want in my lungs, >> in my food or water, or any food that grew in those ashes. I say we >> just quarter him and send each part to a corner of the world. > > Um, "the world" (by which I assume you mean the planet called "Earth" by > its inhabitants) is an oblate spheroid. It has no corners. ''Sidworld'' has one corner for every GDE user. ;-) --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information
From: John Hasler on 7 Oct 2009 19:45
> My view on it, is if there is undeniable evidence, not just a jury > that decided they must have done it (but proof in the form of video or > something similarly worthy). Videos can be faked. Eyewitnesses are often wrong. <http://www.innocenceproject.org/?gclid=CKCzy9yOrJ0CFQTyDAodYG9Sjw> -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA |