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From: Ruud Harmsen on 28 Dec 2009 16:27 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:03:52 -0800 (PST): "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net>: in sci.lang: >On Dec 28, 12:32�pm, Ruud Harmsen <r...(a)rudhar.eu> wrote: >> Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:20:29 -0800 (PST): "Peter T. Daniels" >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net>: in sci.lang: >> >> >I would assume they are /'pyur@r 'fyuriy en'd(y)uriN 'friyd@m fyuw n(y) >> >uw bruw/. >> >> If <purer> is not /pyuwr@r/ but /pyur@r/, why is <freedom> /friyd@m/ >> and not /frid@m/? > >Because "friddum" would be a different word. So is pyoorer. -- Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com
From: Ruud Harmsen on 28 Dec 2009 16:46 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:05:17 -0800 (PST): "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net>: in sci.lang: >What ape has "acquired language"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Macaque s (which are monkeys, not apes) have accents: === Also in recent studies, it has been found that the Japanese Macaque can develop different accents, like humans. It was found that macaques in areas separated by only a couple hundred miles can have very different pitches in their calls, their form of communication. /=== (But no reference is mentioned.) -- Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com
From: Peter T. Daniels on 28 Dec 2009 16:51 On Dec 28, 2:55 pm, António Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote (28-12-2009 19:00): > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 10:31 am, António Marques<antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > >> Peter T. Daniels wrote (28-12-2009 12:29): > > >>> On Dec 28, 5:01 am, "Brian M. Scott"<b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:40:47 +1300, PaulJK > >>>> <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in > >>>> <news:hh9nbf$ejq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in > >>>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.philosophy: > >>>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote: > >>>>>> On Dec 27, 3:49 pm, "Brian M. Scott"<b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> Whatever you recently did to "fix" your encoding has > >>>>>> resulted in blank spaces where you typed funny letters. > >>>>> No, it's posted with Content-Type: text/plain; > >>>>> charset="iso-8859-1" I don't think the problem was caused > >>>>> by his last mod farther down the list of formats. > > >>>> It's almost certainly a problem with Google Groups. If > >>>> Peter would break down and get a decent news client, he'd > >>>> not have the problem. > > >>> Yet somehow Google Groups managed to show the letters a few minutes > >>> later. > > >>> None of the newsgroup-snobs has ever explained what's _wrong_ with > >>> google groups. > > >> I don't see that there is much wrong with GG from the POV of who doesn't use > >> GG (whereas Outlook has a number of bugs, after all these years, that can > >> disrupt other people's experience of the 'news'). The problem with GG is > >> that it's a pain to use, though I don't know of any web interface that > >> isn't, and the occasional weird behaviour - the inconsistency you mention > >> above being a good example.- > > > How is it a pain to use? I go to the url for "My Groups," it shows me > > the list of the 5 groups I visit and whether there are any new > > messages since last time; I click on a group name and it gives me a > > list of the last 30 threads most recently posted to, with the number > > of new messages since last time; I click on a thread and it opens the > > message-tree on the left and the earliest unread message on the right. > > What could be a pain about that? How could some other interface do it > > any more simply? > > Well, compare mine. I open 'Mail & Newsgroups', it shows me there are 219 > unread messages on sci.lang. I click on sci.lang, it opens the message-tree, same > showing only unread messages. I see a lot of them are in 'Magdalenian different -- gg shows who/what the new messages are responding to > experiment (continuation)'. I press K and suddenly 'Magdalenian experiment > (continuation)' disappears for good, lowering the number of unread messages > to 170 (it will never appear again unless I want to). Then, I see most of if I never click on the Magdalenian thread, I never see more about it tnan how many unread messages there are since the last time I visited groups (not how many messages I've never read -- that would be in the hundreds). I look at the thread if Panu has posted something. > the messages are old and in threads that aren't likely to be interesting. I > select them all using ctrl and shift, press R, and they're all marked as > read. That leaves some 30-odd messages I can read sequentially by pressing > space to advance one page at a time. All this happens instantly. And I can different -- I scroll through messages 10 at a time. The unread messages are shown in full, the old ones just as headers until I click on one (or on "Expand All," which shows all 10.) > reply simultaneously to all the messages I want, save replies if they're not > finished yet, reread how many messages I wish, and so on, not having to > worry about anything 'going away'. And in recent times I've gone as far as > creating some filters to automatically delete messages from certain > uninteresting folks so I don't lose any time looking at them (I've resisted > doing that for a long time, but alas it had to be).- No killfiling here. Regarding the minor differences identified, it seems to me GG handles them better.
From: Peter T. Daniels on 28 Dec 2009 16:57 On Dec 28, 4:27 pm, Ruud Harmsen <r...(a)rudhar.eu> wrote: > Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:03:52 -0800 (PST): "Peter T. Daniels" > <gramma...(a)verizon.net>: in sci.lang: > > >On Dec 28, 12:32 pm, Ruud Harmsen <r...(a)rudhar.eu> wrote: > >> Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:20:29 -0800 (PST): "Peter T. Daniels" > >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net>: in sci.lang: > > >> >I would assume they are /'pyur@r 'fyuriy en'd(y)uriN 'friyd@m fyuw n(y) > >> >uw bruw/. > > >> If <purer> is not /pyuwr@r/ but /pyur@r/, why is <freedom> /friyd@m/ > >> and not /frid@m/? > > >Because "friddum" would be a different word. > > So is pyoorer. Poorer and purer are different words with the same vowel. There is no word with [Ur].
From: Peter T. Daniels on 28 Dec 2009 17:06
On Dec 28, 3:40 pm, Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removet...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > I wonder if you aren't being intentionally ironic and a troll. It's > funny that someone would invent the word "Eng" and then complain about > people doing what they want with the language. The anomaly is compounded > by your use of "butcher" as a verb, What'swrong with butcher (v.)? It's been around since 1562 (M-W). |