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From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 22:13 On Jun 14, 10:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave.. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. > > No. > > An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not > infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It > becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It > is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. > > Mitch Raemsch The ability of the light wave to become a particle is the particle associated with the light wave. When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An ocean wave does not have an associated particle. The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very small region of the wave itself. When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 22:41 On Jun 14, 7:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 10:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > > > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. > > > No. > > > An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not > > infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It > > becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It > > is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > The ability of the light wave to become a particle is the particle > associated with the light wave. > > When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An > ocean wave does not have an associated particle. > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very > small region of the wave itself. > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave. > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > through exactly one of the slits." > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > I agree with Bohm. > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. An infinitely small wave is the reality. There is never any particle in the light wave. It is a point of light inbewteen oscillations. And the same becomes an energy particle inside of a matter point particle. All particles are infinitely small and light oscillates into them. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 22:52 On Jun 14, 10:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 7:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 10:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > > > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > > > > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. > > > > No. > > > > An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not > > > infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It > > > becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It > > > is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > The ability of the light wave to become a particle is the particle > > associated with the light wave. > > > When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An > > ocean wave does not have an associated particle. > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very > > small region of the wave itself. > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > displacement wave. > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. An infinitely small wave is the reality. There is never any > particle in the light wave. It is a point of light inbewteen > oscillations. And the same becomes an energy particle inside of a > matter point particle. All particles are infinitely small and light > oscillates into them. > > Mitch Raemsch A light wave oscillating into a particle is the particle associated with a light wave. When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An ocean wave does not have an associated particle. The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very small region of the wave itself. When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 22:54 On Jun 14, 7:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 10:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 7:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 10:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > > > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > > > > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > > > > > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. > > > > > No. > > > > > An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not > > > > infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It > > > > becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It > > > > is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The ability of the light wave to become a particle is the particle > > > associated with the light wave. > > > > When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An > > > ocean wave does not have an associated particle. > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very > > > small region of the wave itself. > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle.. > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > displacement wave. > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > No. An infinitely small wave is the reality. There is never any > > particle in the light wave. It is a point of light inbewteen > > oscillations. And the same becomes an energy particle inside of a > > matter point particle. All particles are infinitely small and light > > oscillates into them. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > A light wave oscillating into a particle is the particle associated > with a light wave. No. The point is when it goes into matter it has become an infinitely small wave of energy. Mitch Raemsch > > When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An > ocean wave does not have an associated particle. > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very > small region of the wave itself. > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave. > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > through exactly one of the slits." > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > I agree with Bohm. > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 22:58
On Jun 14, 10:54 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 7:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 10:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 7:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 10:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > > > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > > > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > > > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > > > > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > > > > > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > > > > > > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. > > > > > > No. > > > > > > An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not > > > > > infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It > > > > > becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It > > > > > is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The ability of the light wave to become a particle is the particle > > > > associated with the light wave. > > > > > When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An > > > > ocean wave does not have an associated particle. > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very > > > > small region of the wave itself. > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > No. An infinitely small wave is the reality. There is never any > > > particle in the light wave. It is a point of light inbewteen > > > oscillations. And the same becomes an energy particle inside of a > > > matter point particle. All particles are infinitely small and light > > > oscillates into them. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A light wave oscillating into a particle is the particle associated > > with a light wave. > > No. The point is when it goes into matter it has become an infinitely > small wave of energy. > > Mitch Raemsch > The point is the particle associated with the light wave. When an ocean wave arrives on shore it does not become a particle. An ocean wave does not have an associated particle. The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path. The particle may exist as a very small region of the wave itself. When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave. |