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From: BURT on 11 Jun 2010 23:00
I do believe the double slit electron experiment. When light shines at
the two holes it interacts with the point particle aether wave causing
it to collapse. This is why there is no wave pattern detected when
there is light.
From: mpc755 on 11 Jun 2010 23:15
On Jun 11, 11:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I do believe the double slit electron experiment.

What about the double slit C-60 molecule experiment? Does the C-60
molecule travel a single continuous physical path as a particle with
an associated external aether displacement wave?

> When light shines at
> the two holes it interacts with the point particle aether wave causing
> it to collapse. This is why there is no wave pattern detected when
> there is light.

From: BURT on 11 Jun 2010 23:32
On Jun 11, 7:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 10:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 11, 7:33 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 11, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 11, 6:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 11, 6:17 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jun 11, 4:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Jun 11, 1:02 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 9:33 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 8:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 7:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 10:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what you are doing here. You sure are not addressing me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you do your own work? Or are you just repeating what you have read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > over and over?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > There is still an outstanding question you have not answered.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Double slit experiments have been performed with C-60 molecules.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > > > > > > > > > > > by the double solution theory
> > > > > > > > > > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > > > > > > > > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.'
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration
> > > > > > > > > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be
> > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is
> > > > > > > > > > > > defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very
> > > > > > > > > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion
> > > > > > > > > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at
> > > > > > > > > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must
> > > > > > > > > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting
> > > > > > > > > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > v wave.'
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Broglie%E2%80%93Bohm_theory
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > "In de Broglie–Bohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both
> > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes
> > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > You said you agreed with Bohm. Bohm states the particle, in this case
> > > > > > > > > > > > a C-60 molecule, has a well-defined trajectory and passes through
> > > > > > > > > > > > exactly one of the slits.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree with Bohm or don't you?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Quantum mechanics isn't objective. But the push by the wave of the
> > > > > > > > > > > particle of energy I believe. This is called quantum vibration float
> > > > > > > > > > > in space.
>
> > > > > > > > > > And of course in two time flow. It is the same for the particle as it
> > > > > > > > > > is for the wave. The whole is in two time.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Broglie%E2%80%93Bohm_theory
>
> > > > > > > > > "In de Broglie–Bohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both
> > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes
> > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits."
>
> > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits.
>
> > > > > > > > > In a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule, do you agree with
> > > > > > > > > Bohm that the C-60 molecule passes through exactly one of the slits?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > I am not so sure they have done that experiment. I think it hasn't
> > > > > > > > been done but is being used as a thought experiment.
> > > > > > > > What is more important is that the wave can collapse into its energy.
> > > > > > > > This is when the wave pattern disappears because of light and particle
> > > > > > > > flowing together at the two slits.
>
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > 'Wave–particle duality of C60 molecules'http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v401/n6754/abs/401680a0.html
>
> > > > > > > "Here we report the observation of de Broglie wave interference of
> > > > > > > C60  molecules by diffraction at a material absorption grating."
>
> > > > > > > 'Double-slit experiment'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
>
> > > > > > > "Recent studies have revealed that interference is not restricted
> > > > > > > solely to elementary particles such as protons, neutrons, and
> > > > > > > electrons. Specifically, it has been shown that large molecular
> > > > > > > structures like fullerene (C60) also produce interference patterns."
>
> > > > > > > 'Wave–particle duality'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality
>
> > > > > > > "In 1999, the diffraction of C60 fullerenes by researchers from the
> > > > > > > University of Vienna was reported.[15]  Fullerenes are comparatively
> > > > > > > large and massive objects, having an atomic mass of about 720 u. The
> > > > > > > de Broglie wavelength is 2.5 pm, whereas the diameter of the molecule
> > > > > > > is about 1 nm, about 400 times larger. As of 2005, this is the largest
> > > > > > > object for which quantum-mechanical wave-like properties have been
> > > > > > > directly observed in far-field diffraction."
>
> > > > > > > 'Quantum interference experiments with large molecules'http://hexagon.physics.wisc.edu/teaching/2007f_ph448/interesting%20pa...
>
> > > > > > > "The soccer-ball-shaped carbon cages C60 are large, massive, and
> > > > > > > appealing objects for which it is clear that they must behave like
> > > > > > > particles under ordinary circumstances. We present the results of a
> > > > > > > multislit diffraction experiment with such objects to demonstrate
> > > > > > > their wave nature."
>
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Broglie%E2%80%93Bohm_theory
>
> > > > > > > "In de Broglie–Bohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both
> > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes
> > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits."
>
> > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits.
>
> > > > > > > In a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule, do you agree with
> > > > > > > Bohm that the C-60 molecule passes through exactly one of the slits?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > > Your links to the buckballe experiment don't go anywhere.
> > > > > > I doubt that it is even a real experiment for my part.
>
> > > > > I tested all of the links and they worked correctly. If you were
> > > > > paying attention, you would have noticed they all discuss the same
> > > > > experiment.
>
> > > > > > How are these particle collected? How are they made?
>
> > > > > You can't read links? I have to figure this out for you?
>
> > > > > > I think that if these questions are answered this turns out to be only
> > > > > > a thought experiment.
>
> > > > > It is not a thought experiment. It wouldn't matter if it was or not.
>
> > > > > There is zero evidence of the C-60 molecule exiting more than on slit.
> > > > > Ther is zero evidence of any particle ever exiting both slits. This is
> > > > > evidence of the C-60 molecule always entering and exiting a single
> > > > > slit in a double slit experiment.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > I tried the links with no success. You cannot challenge me there.
> > > > I question if that is just another though experiment?
>
> > > So what if it is? Does the C-60 molecule enter and exit a single slit
> > > in a double slit experiment?
>
> > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule travels a single continuous
> > > path as a self contained entity and it is the external aether
> > > displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits.
>
> > > > How is a bucky ball going to be detected at the screen?
> > > > This is the other side of the question how is it gathered together in
> > > > the first place? I have never heard of a buckyball gun.
>
> > > > I challenge you that there is no such thing as molecular vibration
> > > > only atomic aether wave for free atoms. So thanks anyways.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > I feel it is a measured fraud. Science is corrupted in that way.
> > So many people have convinced science that they have done experiments
> > that verify things that can never happen. This is the danger in
> > believing current science. Science needs to know that it has been
> > duped by scientific fraud because it simply is not objective enough to
> > see that what is being claimed simply cannot be true.
>
> > If I don't understand something it is not my problem. What that means
> > is that it is wrong to begin with. That is all there is to it.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> So, in a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule*, what do you
> think occurs physically in nature? >

I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles.
I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic
particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave.


Mitch Raesmch

> Do you think the C-60 molecule
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From: mpc755 on 12 Jun 2010 00:25
On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles.

I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a
single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self
contained entity.

> I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic
> particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave.
>

I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an
associated aether wave.

> Mitch Raesmch>

From: BURT on 12 Jun 2010 00:32
On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles.
>
> I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a
> single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self
> contained entity.
>
> > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic
> > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave.
>
> I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an
> associated aether wave.

Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you
see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying.

I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin.

Mitch Raemsch

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