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From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 18:39 On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 12:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 3:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 10:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:55 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > In a sense but no. > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > displacement wave. > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > is it in the magnetic wave? > And does it move in them? > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 21:53 On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 3:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 10:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:55 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In a sense but no. > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle.. > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > displacement wave. > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > And does it move in them? > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > Mitch Raemsch You continually say it yourself: "The wave itself becomes a point of light." The point of light is the 'particle' associated with a light wave. The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path. When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 21:57 On Jun 14, 6:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 12:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 3:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 13, 10:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:55 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > And does it move in them? > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > You continually say it yourself: > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. Mitch Raemsch > > The point of light is the 'particle' associated with a light wave. > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > the wave and travels a single path. > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave. > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > through exactly one of the slits." > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > I agree with Bohm. > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 22:03 On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 6:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 3:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 3:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 10:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:55 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > Mitch Raemsch > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the photon is detected it is detected as a particle. The 'particle' may very well be a portion of the light wave itself. The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path. When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 22:09
On Jun 14, 7:03 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >In a sense but no. > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > > > > > > > > > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow.. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the > > > > > > > > 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave > > > > > > > > to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very > > > > > > > > small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to > > > > > > > > become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path > > > > > > > > and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. > > > > > > > > Matter energy particle is always within aether even when it collapses > > > > > > > to the infinitely small. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > A light wave particle is always within the aether. > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Light is not a particle. It is two forces. > > > > > > Where in the light wave is a particle? Is it in the electric wave or > > > > > is it in the magnetic wave? > > > > > And does it move in them? > > > > > > The definition of light is not a particle but two forces together.. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Einstein was the father of the light particle but what made him great > > > > was that he questioned what he won the Nobel Prize for. He said that > > > > in the end he could not reconcile this particle with a light wave. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > You continually say it yourself: > > > > "The wave itself becomes a point of light." > > > Yes an EM energy singularity with time flow. This is time light > > oscillation. But it is only for an instant in the time flow. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > It doesn't matter if it is for an instant or for longer. When the > photon is detected it is detected as a particle. No. An infinitely small wave going into energy is detected. But it is not infinitely small until the last instance of its oscillation. It becomes a particle inside a particle but not outside so to speak. It is a spread out wave until then. That is the objective stance. Mitch Raemsch |