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From: BURT on 12 Jun 2010 22:07 On Jun 12, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 6:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 12, 2:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:12 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:32 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I think that this is a case of scientific fraud. Best wishes. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 12 Jun 2010 23:13 On Jun 12, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 6:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 12, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 2:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:12 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:32 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > Best wishes. > > Mitch Raemsch A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 12 Jun 2010 23:39 On Jun 12, 8:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 12, 6:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 12, 2:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:12 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:32 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.. The > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.. > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > Best wishes. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave. > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > through exactly one of the slits." > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > I agree with Bohm. > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must exist. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 13 Jun 2010 06:06 On Jun 12, 11:39 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 8:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 12, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 6:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 12, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 2:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:12 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:32 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > > Best wishes. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > displacement wave. > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > exist. > > Mitch Raemsch When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. This is the particle associated with the photon. A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether displacement wave. "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes through exactly one of the slits." Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. I agree with Bohm. The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.
From: BURT on 13 Jun 2010 14:17
On Jun 13, 3:06 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 12, 11:39 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 8:13 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 12, 10:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 6:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 12, 6:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 2:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 1:12 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 12, 12:32 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin.. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > displacement wave. > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > > exist. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > displacement wave. > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > through exactly one of the slits." > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > I agree with Bohm. > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The wave function can collapse. Mitch Raemsch |