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From: mpc755 on 13 Jun 2010 23:48 On Jun 13, 10:27 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 13, 4:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 6:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 2:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 5:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > > > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > Matter wave collapses in the presence of light aether. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > There is aether collapse. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > Exactly. The ability of the photon aether wave to collapse and be > > > > > > detected as a particle travels a single path. > > > > > > Not exactly. Light oscillates as a sphere by time itself. > > > > > But I was refering to matter waves in the first place mpc collapsing > > > > > into energy not light. Did you not see that? > > > > > > I thought so. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > What you are still incapable of doing is describing why a photon > > > > aether wave is able to collapse and be detected as a particle. > > > > Einstein was right to question his light particle. There is a point of > > > light. > > > The 'point of light' is the particle associated with the aether wave. > > > > It is only for an instance inbetween wave oscillations driven > > > by time. > > > > Light gets caught by energy points of matter and oscillates its energy > > > right into the point matters energy infinitely dense. > > > > There is no particle being detected. There is only a wave oscillating > > > by time into energy that is being detected. > > > The 'point' being detected is the particle. > > > This is the photon particle associated with the photon aether wave. > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > displacement wave. > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Time aether wave of point energy going back into it. > > Mitch Raemsch Every time you mention 'point' associated with the photon aether wave your are referring to the 'particle' associated with the photon. The 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. The 'particle' may be a part of the aether wave itself. The 'particle' travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 00:49 On Jun 13, 8:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 13, 10:27 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 4:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 6:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 2:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 13, 5:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > > > > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > Matter wave collapses in the presence of light aether. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > There is aether collapse. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > Exactly. The ability of the photon aether wave to collapse and be > > > > > > > detected as a particle travels a single path. > > > > > > > Not exactly. Light oscillates as a sphere by time itself. > > > > > > But I was refering to matter waves in the first place mpc collapsing > > > > > > into energy not light. Did you not see that? > > > > > > > I thought so. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > What you are still incapable of doing is describing why a photon > > > > > aether wave is able to collapse and be detected as a particle. > > > > > Einstein was right to question his light particle. There is a point of > > > > light. > > > > The 'point of light' is the particle associated with the aether wave. > > > > > It is only for an instance inbetween wave oscillations driven > > > > by time. > > > > > Light gets caught by energy points of matter and oscillates its energy > > > > right into the point matters energy infinitely dense. > > > > > There is no particle being detected. There is only a wave oscillating > > > > by time into energy that is being detected. > > > > The 'point' being detected is the particle. > > > > This is the photon particle associated with the photon aether wave. > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle.. > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > displacement wave. > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Time aether wave of point energy going back into it. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Every time you mention 'point' associated with the photon aether wave > your are referring to the 'particle' associated with the photon. The > 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. The > 'particle' may be a part of the aether wave itself. The 'particle' > travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There is no point in the light wave. The wave itself becomes a point of light. But the point of mass in an matter aether wave is vibrating. The point energy floats through its own aether wave. We call this float rate time vibration. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 00:51 On Jun 14, 12:49 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 13, 8:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 10:27 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 4:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 6:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 13, 2:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 5:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > > > > > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter wave collapses in the presence of light aether.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > There is aether collapse. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > Exactly. The ability of the photon aether wave to collapse and be > > > > > > > > detected as a particle travels a single path. > > > > > > > > Not exactly. Light oscillates as a sphere by time itself. > > > > > > > But I was refering to matter waves in the first place mpc collapsing > > > > > > > into energy not light. Did you not see that? > > > > > > > > I thought so. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > What you are still incapable of doing is describing why a photon > > > > > > aether wave is able to collapse and be detected as a particle. > > > > > > Einstein was right to question his light particle. There is a point of > > > > > light. > > > > > The 'point of light' is the particle associated with the aether wave. > > > > > > It is only for an instance inbetween wave oscillations driven > > > > > by time. > > > > > > Light gets caught by energy points of matter and oscillates its energy > > > > > right into the point matters energy infinitely dense. > > > > > > There is no particle being detected. There is only a wave oscillating > > > > > by time into energy that is being detected. > > > > > The 'point' being detected is the particle. > > > > > This is the photon particle associated with the photon aether wave. > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Time aether wave of point energy going back into it. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Every time you mention 'point' associated with the photon aether wave > > your are referring to the 'particle' associated with the photon. The > > 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. The > > 'particle' may be a part of the aether wave itself. The 'particle' > > travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > There is no point in the light wave. The wave itself becomes a point > of light. The wave itself becoming a point of light is the particle associated with the light wave.
From: BURT on 14 Jun 2010 00:55 On Jun 13, 9:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 14, 12:49 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 8:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 13, 10:27 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 13, 4:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 13, 6:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 2:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 5:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 11:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think molecules of any kind go through purely as particles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean you think the C-60 molecule travels a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single continuous path through three dimensional space as a self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contained entity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe in molecular vibrations only atom and subatomic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particle vibrations with a measurable aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the above to mean the moving C-60 molecule has an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > associated aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well that is the opposite of what I am telling you I believe. Do you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see that? If you do then you understand what I am saying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't need subterfuge here. I see this is a form spin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't believe light has a wavefunction only a force wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The force wave is an aether wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The forces are waves. Their is no force particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well all I can say is something stinks here and it may not be you. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think that this is a case of scientific fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Science is looking for the wavefuntion collapse that it knows must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter wave collapses in the presence of light aether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > > > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > > > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > > > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > > > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > > > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > There is aether collapse. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. The ability of the photon aether wave to collapse and be > > > > > > > > > detected as a particle travels a single path. > > > > > > > > > Not exactly. Light oscillates as a sphere by time itself. > > > > > > > > But I was refering to matter waves in the first place mpc collapsing > > > > > > > > into energy not light. Did you not see that? > > > > > > > > > I thought so. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > What you are still incapable of doing is describing why a photon > > > > > > > aether wave is able to collapse and be detected as a particle.. > > > > > > > Einstein was right to question his light particle. There is a point of > > > > > > light. > > > > > > The 'point of light' is the particle associated with the aether wave. > > > > > > > It is only for an instance inbetween wave oscillations driven > > > > > > by time. > > > > > > > Light gets caught by energy points of matter and oscillates its energy > > > > > > right into the point matters energy infinitely dense. > > > > > > > There is no particle being detected. There is only a wave oscillating > > > > > > by time into energy that is being detected. > > > > > > The 'point' being detected is the particle. > > > > > > This is the photon particle associated with the photon aether wave. > > > > > > The particle associated with the wave occupies a very small region of > > > > > the wave and travels a single path. > > > > > > When the physical wave collapses the photon is detected as a particle. > > > > > This is the particle associated with the photon. > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule is a particle which has an associated aether > > > > > displacement wave. > > > > > > "In de BroglieBohm theory, the wavefunction travels through both > > > > > slits, but each particle has a well-defined trajectory and passes > > > > > through exactly one of the slits." > > > > > > Bohm states the particle passes through exactly one of the slits. > > > > > > I agree with Bohm. > > > > > > The 'wavefunction' physically exists in nature as an aether wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Time aether wave of point energy going back into it. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Every time you mention 'point' associated with the photon aether wave > > > your are referring to the 'particle' associated with the photon. The > > > 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. The > > > 'particle' may be a part of the aether wave itself. The 'particle' > > > travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > There is no point in the light wave. The wave itself becomes a point > > of light. > > The wave itself becoming a point of light is the particle associated > with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - In a sense but no. There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 14 Jun 2010 01:05
On Jun 14, 12:55 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > In a sense but no. > > There is no point in the light wave. But the light wave can become an > EM energy point for an instant alone and not in time flow. > > Mitch Raemsch The instant the light wave becomes an EM energy point is the 'particle' associated with a light wave. The ability of the light wave to become an EM energy point for an instant alone occupies a very small region of the light wave. The ability of the light wave to become an EM energy point for an instant alone travels a single path and enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. |