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From: PD on 26 May 2010 14:09 On May 26, 1:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 1:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 12:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 11:53 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 10:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Physics is the study of what occurs physically in nature. Physics is > > > > > the "physics of nature". > > > > > One of the best ways to illustrate that you have no idea what you're > > > > talking about is to use self-referential sentences like the above. It > > > > merely shows that you have no idea what you even mean in your own mind > > > > what "physical" means. You can't characterize what "physical" means, > > > > and so you end up with sentences like, "You know... physical. Physics > > > > is about the stuff that's... physical. And about what physically > > > > occurs. Yeah, that physical stuff." > > > > > PD > > > > For those who are intuitive, defining physics as the 'physics of > > > nature' is easily understood. For you I will define it further, > > > physics is understanding what occurs physically in nature. > > > Ah, so let's capture that, shall we? "Self-referential sentences are > > perfectly understandable to those who are intuitive. For those who are > > not intuitive, uttering another self-referential statement is the only > > recourse." > > > Here's some fun then: Define "physical" without the use of "physics", > > "physical", "physically" or any other form of the word "physical" in > > the definition of "physical". Can you do that? > > I will answer that question as soon as you answer the following: > As I thought. You can't do it. I asked you this question a long, long, long time ago, and you've never been able to answer it.
From: PD on 26 May 2010 14:11 On May 26, 1:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 1:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 12:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 11:53 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 10:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Physics is the study of what occurs physically in nature. Physics is > > > > > the "physics of nature". > > > > > One of the best ways to illustrate that you have no idea what you're > > > > talking about is to use self-referential sentences like the above. It > > > > merely shows that you have no idea what you even mean in your own mind > > > > what "physical" means. You can't characterize what "physical" means, > > > > and so you end up with sentences like, "You know... physical. Physics > > > > is about the stuff that's... physical. And about what physically > > > > occurs. Yeah, that physical stuff." > > > > > PD > > > > For those who are intuitive, defining physics as the 'physics of > > > nature' is easily understood. For you I will define it further, > > > physics is understanding what occurs physically in nature. > > > Ah, so let's capture that, shall we? "Self-referential sentences are > > perfectly understandable to those who are intuitive. For those who are > > not intuitive, uttering another self-referential statement is the only > > recourse." > > > Here's some fun then: Define "physical" without the use of "physics", > > "physical", "physically" or any other form of the word "physical" in > > the definition of "physical". Can you do that? > > I will answer that question as soon as you answer the following: > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: > You have to tell me what "physical" means to you in order for me to even know what you mean by "occurs physically in nature". When you can define what "physical" means, then we can talk about your question.
From: purple on 26 May 2010 14:15 On 5/26/2010 12:53 PM, mpc755 wrote: > On May 26, 1:47 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: >> On 5/26/2010 12:30 PM, mpc755 wrote: >> >> >> >>> On May 26, 11:53 am, PD<thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On May 26, 10:37 am, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> Physics is the study of what occurs physically in nature. Physics is >>>>> the "physics of nature". >> >>>> One of the best ways to illustrate that you have no idea what you're >>>> talking about is to use self-referential sentences like the above. It >>>> merely shows that you have no idea what you even mean in your own mind >>>> what "physical" means. You can't characterize what "physical" means, >>>> and so you end up with sentences like, "You know... physical. Physics >>>> is about the stuff that's... physical. And about what physically >>>> occurs. Yeah, that physical stuff." >> >>>> PD >> >>> For those who are intuitive, >> >> Science is the study of nature. Your intuition is of no help. The >> cat has an intuition there's a mouse about. That's not science. > > It is intuition based upon scientific experimental evidence. Stop hawking nonsense.
From: PD on 26 May 2010 14:15 On May 26, 1:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 1:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 12:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 11:53 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 10:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Physics is the study of what occurs physically in nature. Physics is > > > > > the "physics of nature". > > > > > One of the best ways to illustrate that you have no idea what you're > > > > talking about is to use self-referential sentences like the above. It > > > > merely shows that you have no idea what you even mean in your own mind > > > > what "physical" means. You can't characterize what "physical" means, > > > > and so you end up with sentences like, "You know... physical. Physics > > > > is about the stuff that's... physical. And about what physically > > > > occurs. Yeah, that physical stuff." > > > > > PD > > > > For those who are intuitive, defining physics as the 'physics of > > > nature' is easily understood. For you I will define it further, > > > physics is understanding what occurs physically in nature. > > > Ah, so let's capture that, shall we? "Self-referential sentences are > > perfectly understandable to those who are intuitive. For those who are > > not intuitive, uttering another self-referential statement is the only > > recourse." > > > Here's some fun then: Define "physical" without the use of "physics", > > "physical", "physically" or any other form of the word "physical" in > > the definition of "physical". Can you do that? > > I will answer that question as soon as you answer the following: > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: > "Yeah, that physics stuff. You know, the study of physical stuff, things physically occurring. That stuff." "Sure, I'm an expert on biology. Biology is the study of, you know, biological stuff, how things work biologically." "I'm deeply intuitive about cosmology, which is the study of cosmological things, and those are things in, you know, the cosmos." "Yeah, I know all about that geological stuff, which is what geology studies. You know... geoles and things." nyuk, nyuk. PD
From: PD on 26 May 2010 14:15
On May 26, 1:15 pm, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > On 5/26/2010 12:53 PM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 1:47 pm, purple<pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > >> On 5/26/2010 12:30 PM, mpc755 wrote: > > >>> On May 26, 11:53 am, PD<thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> On May 26, 10:37 am, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> Physics is the study of what occurs physically in nature. Physics is > >>>>> the "physics of nature". > > >>>> One of the best ways to illustrate that you have no idea what you're > >>>> talking about is to use self-referential sentences like the above. It > >>>> merely shows that you have no idea what you even mean in your own mind > >>>> what "physical" means. You can't characterize what "physical" means, > >>>> and so you end up with sentences like, "You know... physical. Physics > >>>> is about the stuff that's... physical. And about what physically > >>>> occurs. Yeah, that physical stuff." > > >>>> PD > > >>> For those who are intuitive, > > >> Science is the study of nature. Your intuition is of no help. The > >> cat has an intuition there's a mouse about. That's not science. > > > It is intuition based upon scientific experimental evidence. > > Stop hawking nonsense. "Stop" is a word that has no meaning for this guy. |