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From: Raymond Yohros on 23 May 2010 19:52 On May 21, 9:00 am, purple <pur...(a)colorme.com> wrote: > On 5/21/2010 10:17 AM, PD wrote: > > > On May 20, 6:24 pm, BruceS<bruce...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Seriously, if Mitch hasn't made himself clear enough in your ng, as he > >> has in rom, I should help you out a little. Aside from the > >> entertainment value in seeing what contortion he'll come up with next, > >> there's little point in trying to discuss anything with him. If > >> that's all you're up to, no problem. If you're expecting any > >> semblance of sanity, I hope I've helped you avoid disappointment in > >> the future. > > > I have some hope that Mitch will understand WHY he says the things he > > does, and that this will help him move in a more positive direction > > than what he's been doing so far. > > You're hopeful a mentally ill person can understand that his entire > insane frame of reference is warped? I did know a particularly bright > one who acknowledged that the "rules for other people doesn't apply > to them." When asked why that was, the person had no idea why it was, > only that that's the way things are. > > The answer I would expect from BURT is that he knows how things are > because God put them into his brain and everyone ought to listen. > > Well if it wasn't, it could be now. > i think he is more religiously motivated because of the clear lack of knoledge on scientific basics. r.y
From: mpc755 on 23 May 2010 21:06 On May 23, 7:08 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On May 23, 5:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 23, 4:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Light is oscillating in size. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > ============== > > > > > What part of "The magnetic and electric FIELDS of AN electromagnetic > > wave...of THE wave" are you incapable of understanding? > > http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/waves2.html > > > > > "Electromagnetic waves are formed when an electric field (shown as > > blue arrows) couples with a magnetic field (shown as red arrows). The > > magnetic and electric fields of an electromagnetic wave are > > perpendicular to each other and to the direction of the wave." > > You see, that only works for kids. When they grow up > the magical illusion vanishes and they have to learn > integral calculus to explain what formerly seemed > obvious. :-)) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral#Some_practical_applica... > > Time-dependent Maxwell's equationshttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node41.html > > Sue... Just pointing out the 'particle' occupies a very small region of THE wave. 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The ZC-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference.
From: bert on 24 May 2010 09:11 On May 23, 9:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 23, 7:08 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 5:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 23, 4:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Light is oscillating in size. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > ============== > > > > What part of "The magnetic and electric FIELDS of AN electromagnetic > > > wave...of THE wave" are you incapable of understanding? > > >http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/waves2.html > > > > "Electromagnetic waves are formed when an electric field (shown as > > > blue arrows) couples with a magnetic field (shown as red arrows). The > > > magnetic and electric fields of an electromagnetic wave are > > > perpendicular to each other and to the direction of the wave." > > > You see, that only works for kids. When they grow up > > the magical illusion vanishes and they have to learn > > integral calculus to explain what formerly seemed > > obvious. :-)) > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral#Some_practical_applica... > > > Time-dependent Maxwell's equationshttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node41.html > > > Sue... > > Just pointing out the 'particle' occupies a very small region of THE > wave. > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > by the double solution theory > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > of an external field acting on the particle." > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > located." > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > the wave. > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > ZC-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Photon is a particle,and that is proven TreBert
From: mpc755 on 24 May 2010 09:50 On May 24, 9:11 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 23, 9:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 7:08 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On May 23, 5:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 4:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Light is oscillating in size. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > ============== > > > > > What part of "The magnetic and electric FIELDS of AN electromagnetic > > > > wave...of THE wave" are you incapable of understanding? > > > >http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/waves2.html > > > > > "Electromagnetic waves are formed when an electric field (shown as > > > > blue arrows) couples with a magnetic field (shown as red arrows). The > > > > magnetic and electric fields of an electromagnetic wave are > > > > perpendicular to each other and to the direction of the wave." > > > > You see, that only works for kids. When they grow up > > > the magical illusion vanishes and they have to learn > > > integral calculus to explain what formerly seemed > > > obvious. :-)) > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral#Some_practical_applica.... > > > > Time-dependent Maxwell's equationshttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node41.html > > > > Sue... > > > Just pointing out the 'particle' occupies a very small region of THE > > wave. > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle." > > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > located." > > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > the wave. > > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > ZC-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Photon is a particle,and that is proven TreBert In a double slit experiment with a photon the photon 'particle' occupies a very small region of the photon wave and travels a single path. The photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment and it is the photon wave which enters and exits both slits. The photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon 'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no interference.
From: BURT on 24 May 2010 13:32
On May 24, 6:11 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 23, 9:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 23, 7:08 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On May 23, 5:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 4:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Light is oscillating in size. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > ============== > > > > > What part of "The magnetic and electric FIELDS of AN electromagnetic > > > > wave...of THE wave" are you incapable of understanding? > > > >http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/waves2.html > > > > > "Electromagnetic waves are formed when an electric field (shown as > > > > blue arrows) couples with a magnetic field (shown as red arrows). The > > > > magnetic and electric fields of an electromagnetic wave are > > > > perpendicular to each other and to the direction of the wave." > > > > You see, that only works for kids. When they grow up > > > the magical illusion vanishes and they have to learn > > > integral calculus to explain what formerly seemed > > > obvious. :-)) > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral#Some_practical_applica.... > > > > Time-dependent Maxwell's equationshttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node41.html > > > > Sue... > > > Just pointing out the 'particle' occupies a very small region of THE > > wave. > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle." > > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > located." > > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > the wave. > > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > ZC-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Photon is a particle,and that is proven TreBert- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. It is not. And Einstein questioned what he won the nobel prize for in the end. Light is an oscillating dual wave whose electric energy collapses into an electric particle at absorption. Mitch Raemsch |