From: Char Jackson on
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:47:38 -0700, Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid>
wrote:

>I also don't understand why you say this:
>
>AnthonyL wrote:
>
> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> > two identical units.
>
>That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>multifunctional in both those capacities.
>
>What does the above cited sentence mean?

He may have seen or heard that a wireless router can easily be
repurposed as an access point, but I don't think the same is true when
starting with a modem-router combo unit, is it?

From: Mike Easter on
Char Jackson wrote:
> Mike Easter

>> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>> multifunctional in both those capacities.

> He may have seen or heard that a wireless router can easily be
> repurposed as an access point, but I don't think the same is true when
> starting with a modem-router combo unit, is it?
>
First; I don't know what he meant. Second; I wouldn't speak
'generically' that there is no such thing anywhere as a router with a
DSL modem that can't also be an access point. Third; I still don't
comprehensively understand why this discussion is limited to just these
two significantly different products and (yet) no others. Fourth: I
also don't comprehensively understand exactly what kind of target
mission the device we should be looking for should have.

Somehow I sense that some salesman or sales process said, "Here are two
different dsl-modems 'on sale'/forsale, which one do you want?" just as
the shoe salesman limits his sales pitch to the woman to (just) 2
different shoes so that she won't be confused by being offered too many
choices.

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From: alexd on
On 20/04/10 15:47, Mike Easter wrote:

> I also don't understand why you say this:

There's some more context in the thread "Wireless connection driving me
crazy." that started 20th March.

> AnthonyL wrote:
>
> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> > two identical units.
>
> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
> multifunctional in both those capacities.

Why do you think that *wouldn't* be the case? All the consumer-grade DSL
routers with Wifi that I've seen bridge their wireless and wired
ethernet ports, making them access points.

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From: Mike Easter on
alexd wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> I also don't understand why you say this:
>
> There's some more context in the thread "Wireless connection driving me
> crazy." that started 20th March.

I guess I'll have to look that up. For all I know his 'state of mind'
isn't the same now as it was 4.5 weeks ago. I was sorta hoping he would
say what his current intentions are.

>> AnthonyL wrote:
>>
>> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
>> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
>> > two identical units.
>>
>> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>> multifunctional in both those capacities.
>
> Why do you think that *wouldn't* be the case? All the consumer-grade DSL
> routers with Wifi that I've seen bridge their wireless and wired
> ethernet ports, making them access points.
>
I looked over the promotional overview for the Cisco N and the Netgear G
and the site didn't seem to be 'talking about' such a multimode
functionality. Being a wireless access point for a router's function
isn't the same thing as being a wireless bridge client.

The only device I have which is multifunctional is (just) an access
point, and it clearly promotes itself as that multifunction.

If you feel that both the Cisco and Netgear devices are capable of
functioning as anything but a wireless connnectivity for their router
function I would like for you to show me that in their docs.

http://kb.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2327
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/EU/en/support/WAG120N


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From: Airman Basic on
On 04/21/2010 10:28 PM, Joel wrote:
> Char Jackson<none(a)none.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:28:00 -0500, Airman Basic
>> <airman_basic(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had good service from this one in both your roles:
>>> Linksys WRT54GL
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190&cm_re=linksys_wireless_router-_-33-124-190-_-Product
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I have 6 Linksys wireless routers in service around the home and
>> office, with 5 of them being the WRT54GL v1.1. All are running dd-wrt
>> firmware.
>
> You would please tell me little more about the DD-WRT. I have heard quite
> afew people mentioned about it, I tried to read but it's way more than I can
> understand. My question is
>
> - Is the Linksys own firmware or WRT ok, usuable?
>
> - How easy to replace Linksys's WRT with the 3rd party DD-WRT?
>
> - If I use the DD-WRT do I have to do anything special, or is the default
> setting is ok?
>
> And I guess that different Linksys model may require different version of
> DD-WRT? I have tried to look for info of DD-WRT few years ago but it was so
> confusing.

Sure, try it with the OEM firmware. If you're happy with it, you're
golden. If you want more, check this link:

http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/php-bsd-me/linksys-wrt54gl-ddwrt-software-15026