From: Pd on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Don't believe a word about 'iron man' racing. He just got into a drunken
> brawl. He's an antipodean after all...

We don't need to be drunk to brawl.

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From: Pd on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Pah! I'm a sixer.
> >
> > I think a real six-scorer would be more insouciant about it.
>
> Why are you choosing to insult me in this way?

None of the other ways I've tried have worked.

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From: Jim on
On 2010-06-30, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > Pah! I'm a sixer.
>> >
>> > I think a real six-scorer would be more insouciant about it.
>>
>> Why are you choosing to insult me in this way?
>
> None of the other ways I've tried have worked.
>

[applause!]

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > >>> Uhuh. So you're just being contrary for the sake of
> > > >>> getting a rise out of me, yes?
> > > >>
> > > >> What are you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > Since it's perfectly obvious what I'm on about, this question of yours
> > > > is another ill-meant wind-up in the same vein. I'm pretty damned
> > > > annoyed with you.
> > >
> > > If it was obvious, I wouldn't have asked.
> >
> > I don't believe you. I think you ask me things like that to wind me up.
>
> Suit yourself, I have no way to prove it.
>
> > > >>>>> Assume no spare space for any more books in the house, nor any
> > > > > > > > off-siteq
> > > >>>>> storage available without paying for it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> (the above is roughly my situation)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I lost loads in a fire once. That is probably why I don't care
> > > >>>>>> much about books these days.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <puzzled> Does not compute.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Once I lost them all, I never attached any meaning to them once i
> > > >>>> started regaining them. I don't know, I expected them to go again.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So your books were lost in a fire, and that meant you ended up
> > > >>> considering books worthless?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> </DEEPLY/ puzzled>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Still does not compute.
> > > >>
> > > >> Why would it have to compute? That is how it affected me, it is an
> > > >> emotion, not a decision.
> > > >
> > > > <sigh> Humour. Have you heard of it? What the above phrase was
> > > > meant
> > > > as was an application of humour to a situation.
> > >
> > > I have, I live by it. However, as you don't often use it, and berated me
> > > a few weeks ago for not using a smiley to show that I was using humour,
> >
> > Actually, I think you'll find it was more me berating you for sneering
> > at me for not getting the joke - which happened simply because you
> > failed to flag something as humour which was not obviously humour.
>
> Not obvious to you as humour. Other people saw it as humour, so it was
> obvious to them.

Yes, that's right. It was obvious to them because they know the people
concerned - basically, it's an in-joke when presented as it was. Those
who are/were not `in' cannot readily get the joke.

So it's a social excluder without the smiley - another reason for
including a smiley.

> > That's the usual reason, not the warped explanation you give.
> >
> > > I didn't notice, sorry.
> >
> > Oi vey!
> >
> > Look, `does not compute' is obviously humorous in the above context,
> > because it cannot be made to make sense when applied as a concept to the
> > business in hand.
>
> No. It is not even slightly obvious.

Oh - well, not to you, but it *IS* obvious to lots of people. I know
because I've worked in that way with people who have no trouble spotting
when I'm joking.

That's why I used that mode of expression here: because experience
teaches me that it's an effective means of communication. For some
reason, it doesn't work on you. I don't know why. It has worked with
huge numbers of others in the past.

Yes, when I speak in real life, my words are often jokey even when I'm
addressing serious subjects. Why not?

> > Isn't it?
> >
> > I mean, yeah, if I had thought there was any significant risk of my lack
> > of total seriousness being noticed, I would have put a smiley in.
>
> which was my point the previous time I mentioned.

<sigh> So we basically agree, right? So...

[snip]

> > The way I work things out, if I can find out something useful about your
> > response to the burning of the books, then I would gain a significantly
> > useful addition to my understanding of people in general in a fashion
> > which would me of great practical benefit to me in my daily life.
> >
> > And *that* is why I want to know - understanding you personally in this
> > respect isn't really the point, it's just a means to an end.
>
> I can see that. Although I don't know how normal this is.

Huh? Totally abnormal, I expect. So what? I'm not a psychiatrist, you
know, you don't have to worry that you're going to be drugged for the
crime of `lack of normality'.

[snip]

> > I've never met a way of displaying the content of a book that's as
> > convenient to use as ink on paper.
> >
> > I take it you find no such trouble?
>
> Not only no such trouble, apart from certain minor cases such as an
> appendix in a technical book of a couple of pages as a quick lookup I
> find them mostly preferable.

!!!!!

Well, my reading speed drops massively when faced with electronic
reading. I'm hugely faster on paper - not that I `have trouble' with
e-reading, it's just that paper's oh so much better and faster.

> But then I don't read end to end, and electronic helps with searching.

Uhuh. I often read back and forth - paper helps with that; e-books make
it nearly impossible to flip back and forth without disrupting the flow.

> > > If they all disappeared tomorrow my first thought would be that I had a
> > > lot more free space
> >
> > So why keep them?
>
> the sheer effort of doing anything about it. It takes no effort to leave
> them there, where as it would take considerable effort to move them.
> I still do buy books, I have quite a few I haven't read.

Now that's weird...

Rowland.

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Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Pah! I'm a sixer.
> >> >
> >> > I think a real six-scorer would be more insouciant about it.
> >>
> >> Why are you choosing to insult me in this way?
> >
> > None of the other ways I've tried have worked.
> >
>
> [applause!]

I laughed too.

Rowland.

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