Mail problem resumes
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From: Barry Margolin on 24 Dec 2009 09:49 In article <m23a30n5db.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > In article > > <982029399283319664.669667jollyroger-pobox.com(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > >> And if you had bothered to open the Activity window, you would know what > >> caused it to hang. > > > > Maybe so, but I don't know what I am looking for. At this time, after a > > significant amount of waiting, I still have the spinning spokes. Near > > the bottom of the sidebar, I do see something labelled "MAIL ACTIVITY." > > It is grayed out and clicking on it has no effect. > > Do you actually *read* what people are writing here? Look at the menu > bar at the top of the screen and there in the Windows menu. Open the > "Activity" window (or just press Command-0, this does the same) as soon > as you start up Mail. If the ball starts to spin look at what > activities are listed in this window. You have to admit, it's mighty confusing that there are two places in the program that display "activity" and they're not the same. Until this thread, I assumed that they were just two ways of accomplishing the same thing (everything else in the controls below the sidebar duplicates something in the menus). Has the OP tried rebuilding his mailbox? -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: Salmon Egg on 24 Dec 2009 10:03 In article <m23a30n5db.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Do you actually *read* what people are writing here? Look at the menu > bar at the top of the screen and there in the Windows menu. Open the > "Activity" window (or just press Command-0, this does the same) as soon > as you start up Mail. If the ball starts to spin look at what > activities are listed in this window. > I'll admit to not being as sharp as I used to be. When I saw "MAIL ACTIVITY" in the sidebar, I thought that was it. It was empty. After reading your post, I did use the menu you talked about. There was a message saying "Fetching mew mail" followed by "STOPPING fetching new mail". Meanwhile the spokes continue spinning. I hope you can understand how confusing it is to have "MAIL ACTIVITY" not saying anything and a separate Activity window showing something else. In any event, it looks like the fetching continues. Bill -- An old man would be better off never having been born.
From: Barry Margolin on 24 Dec 2009 10:16 In article <SalmonEgg-32DC49.07035024122009(a)news60.forteinc.com>, Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > In any event, it looks like the fetching continues. Have you tried using SpeedMail? It rebuilds Mail's SQLite database, which usually speeds it up (you can also do it manually via Terminal commands, you can find them if you google for "mac mail sqlite"). http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32784 -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: Jochem Huhmann on 24 Dec 2009 11:30 Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> writes: > After reading your post, I did use the menu you talked about. There was > a message saying "Fetching mew mail" followed by "STOPPING fetching new > mail". Meanwhile the spokes continue spinning. OK, even if Mail is fetching lots or large messages it should not spin the ball. There's definitely something fishy here... > I hope you can understand how confusing it is to have "MAIL ACTIVITY" > not saying anything and a separate Activity window showing something > else. Absolutely, yes. > In any event, it looks like the fetching continues. Do you have any other way to check this account? Maybe there's a corrupt email in there or something. And is this an IMAP or an POP account? Does that server/account work with other clients? You could try one more thing: Quit Mail.app, pen the Mail folder in your Library folder and drag the "Envelope Index" file to the desktop. Then start Mail again. Jochem -- "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Salmon Egg on 24 Dec 2009 23:03
In article <m2zl58e3n8.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > After reading your post, I did use the menu you talked about. There was > > a message saying "Fetching mew mail" followed by "STOPPING fetching new > > mail". Meanwhile the spokes continue spinning. > > OK, even if Mail is fetching lots or large messages it should not spin > the ball. There's definitely something fishy here... > > > I hope you can understand how confusing it is to have "MAIL ACTIVITY" > > not saying anything and a separate Activity window showing something > > else. > > Absolutely, yes. > > > In any event, it looks like the fetching continues. > > Do you have any other way to check this account? Maybe there's a corrupt > email in there or something. And is this an IMAP or an POP account? Does > that server/account work with other clients? > > You could try one more thing: Quit Mail.app, pen the Mail folder in your > Library folder and drag the "Envelope Index" file to the desktop. Then > start Mail again. I am using a POP account that has worked well for years using Leopard. Because of this problem I tried a few other things. I booted up under Leopard System 10.5.8. This was on the drive from which I transfered information to Snow Leopard System 10.6.2 that was on the main drive that came with the computer. I could not get Leopard's Mail to behave as badly as Snow Leopard's. In addition, I put another Snow Leopard system on a third drive. Again, using the provided Apple migration software to transfer old Leopard information. When I booted on this third drive, I got the same kind of Mail behavior as with the first Snow Leopard system. I am concluding that the problem is with Snow Leopard. There are other little things that make me think that Snow Leopard or the computer itself is buggy. I think I mentioned that I tried to boot my new Mac Pro from earlier Leopard install disks. I also tried to boot from Leopard install disks that I got before I had my first Mac Pro. I could not boot from those disks. I had no trouble booting from the Snow Leopard instal disks. Bill -- An old man would be better off never having been born. |