From: Greg Neill on
Brad Guth wrote:
> Sirius(B) is the only seriously big one of up to 9 solar mass that
> went nova(helium flashover), as well as having lost its tidal radii
> grip on its planets and their moons upon collapsing from its red
> supergiant phase as of a little more than 65 million years BP.
>
> The original Sirius star/solar system was extremely nearby and likely
> worth <12.5 Ms, and once again we're closing back in on the remainders
> that includes its complex Oort cloud.

1. Sirius(B) has a mass of about the same as that of
the Sun. It's original mass is estimated at about
5 solar masses. Sirius(A) has a mass of about 2.1
times that of the Sun.

2. The Sirius system has a net redshift, meaning that it
is travelling away from us, along with any attendant
planets or smaller bodies.

3. The age of the Sirius system is estimated to be between
200 and 300 million years, which is an eyeblink when
compared to the current age of our own solar system.


From: MIB on

"Greg Neill" <gneillRE(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> 1. Sirius(B) has a mass of about the same as that of
> the Sun. It's original mass is estimated at about
> 5 solar masses. Sirius(A) has a mass of about 2.1
> times that of the Sun.
>
> 2. The Sirius system has a net redshift, meaning that it
> is travelling away from us, along with any attendant
> planets or smaller bodies.
>
> 3. The age of the Sirius system is estimated to be between
> 200 and 300 million years, which is an eyeblink when
> compared to the current age of our own solar system.


Bwahahaha. Don't confuse Guthtard with facts. His response will be some gibberish
about a friend of his and radial velocity.

From: Brad Guth on
On Jun 11, 9:56 am, "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote:
> Brad Guth wrote:
> > Sirius(B) is the only seriously big one of up to 9 solar mass that
> > went nova(helium flashover), as well as having lost its tidal radii
> > grip on its planets and their moons upon collapsing from its red
> > supergiant phase as of a little more than 65 million years BP.
>
> > The original Sirius star/solar system was extremely nearby and likely
> > worth <12.5 Ms, and once again we're closing back in on the remainders
> > that includes its complex Oort cloud.
>
> 1. Sirius(B) has a mass of about the same as that of
>    the Sun.  It's original mass is estimated at about
>    5 solar masses.  Sirius(A) has a mass of about 2.1
>    times that of the Sun.

But from what, how and when did Sirius(B) it get to that current mass?

>
> 2. The Sirius system has a net redshift, meaning that it
>    is travelling away from us, along with any attendant
>    planets or smaller bodies.

That's just dead wrong, and otherwise mainstream status-quo silly,
because your own peers disagree with you.

-7.6 km/sec means that we're closing in on Sirius.

>
> 3. The age of the Sirius system is estimated to be between
>    200 and 300 million years, which is an eyeblink when
>    compared to the current age of our own solar system.

Exactly (+/- 50 million years). Do try to keep up.

~ BG

From: Brad Guth on
On Jun 11, 12:06 pm, "MIB" <brokenaddr...(a)ask.com> wrote:
> "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:aVtQn.396313$kj4.98493(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
> > 1. Sirius(B) has a mass of about the same as that of
> >   the Sun.  It's original mass is estimated at about
> >   5 solar masses.  Sirius(A) has a mass of about 2.1
> >   times that of the Sun.
>
> > 2. The Sirius system has a net redshift, meaning that it
> >   is travelling away from us, along with any attendant
> >   planets or smaller bodies.
>
> > 3. The age of the Sirius system is estimated to be between
> >   200 and 300 million years, which is an eyeblink when
> >   compared to the current age of our own solar system.
>
> Bwahahaha.  Don't confuse Guthtard with facts.  His response will be some gibberish
> about a friend of his and radial velocity.

Your toilet brain has spoken. Way to go, MIB.

Are you and your friend now going to cite as to how fast we're
supposedly moving away from Sirius?

~ BG
From: Sam Wormley on
On 6/11/10 8:00 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> But from what, how and when did Sirius(B) it get to that current mass?
>

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/sirius.html


"Sirius B, however, is actually the hotter of the two, a blue-white
24,800 Kelvin. Though typically separated from each other by a few
seconds of arc, Sirius B is terribly difficult to see in the glare of
Sirius A. The only way the companion star can be both hot and dim is to
be small, only 0.92 the size of Earth, the total luminosity (including
its ultraviolet light) just 2.4 percent that of the Sun. The two orbit
each other with a 50.1 year period at an average distance of 19.8
Astronomical Units, about Uranus's distance from the Sun, a large
orbital eccentricity carrying them from 31.5 AU apart to 8.1 AU and back
again. They were closest in 1994 and will be again in 2044, while they
will be farthest apart in 2019. From the orbit (and spectroscopic data),
we find that Sirius A and B have respective masses of 2.12 and 1.03
times that of the Sun. Sirius B is the chief member of a trio of classic
white dwarfs, the others Procyon B and 40 Eridani B. Its high mass and
tiny radius lead to an amazing average density of 1.7 metric tons per
cubic centimeter, roughly a sugar cube. White dwarfs are the end
products of ordinary stars like the Sun, tiny remnants that were once
nuclear-fusing cores that have run out of fuel. Most are balls of carbon
and oxygen whose fates are merely to cool forever. To have evolved
first, Sirius B must once have been more massive and luminous than
Sirius A. That its mass is now lower is proof that stars lose
considerable mass as they die. Given the mass of the white dwarf and the
250 million year age of the system, Sirius B may once have been a hot
class B3-B5 star that could have contained as much as 5 to 7 solar
masses, the star perhaps losing over 80 percent of itself back into
interstellar space through earlier winds".