From: Brad Guth on
On Jun 18, 9:48 pm, palsing <pnals...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 18, 8:57 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Semitic approved mainstream that you represent wants the rest of
> > us to believe everything about our solar system is unique if not one
> > of a kind, as well as having been flashed into existence from one
> > stellar ignition sequence that became our sun and all of its planets,
> > moons, Kuiper Belt and Oort cloud that's impervious to external tidal
> > forces or encounters.
>
> > In other words, perfectly uniform and orderly.  So tell us why is it
> > not uniform and orderly?
>
> I give up, wherever did you get the idea from me that I think our
> solar system is unique? In fact, I think just the opposite, I think
> that our solar system is typical of any others surrounding stars just
> like ours. I might be wrong, but for now that is what I think.

Very good, as I'm with you on that interpretation, because then we
also have to consider cosmic interactions and captures as being within
the norm of what could happen.

>
> What makes YOU think that I think our solar system is impervious to
> external forces? Why would this be? Of course, you need to remember
> that gravity is an inverse square law, so it drops off rapidly with
> distance. Rapidly. In fact, I don't know why you have this huge
> fixation with Sirius, because we get a bigger gravitational tug from
> Alpha Centauri. It is not very big tug at all, actually, but it is
> bigger than the tug from Sirius.

Considering the original all-inclusive mass of the Sirius star system
that may have represented three significant stars, each way larger and
more vibrant than our sun, whereas it's entirely possible that our
passive little solar system was nearby enough and perturbed or
otherwise influenced by that terrific gravitational force (not to
mention by that substantial molecular cloud that preceded), which
lasted for perhaps a couple hundred million years before Sirius(B)
combined with or absorbed Sirius(C) and eventually went through its
red supergiant phase and helium flashover that managed to do a real
number on us as of roughly 65 million BP. Possibly it was merely the
remains of Sirius(C) being terminated and combined into Sirius(B),
whereas either way (with or w/o C) it was a very big and nearby event.

>
> Perfectly uniform and orderly? Where do you get these ideas? Ever hear
> of entropy? Get a grip, you have an overactive imagination.
>
> \Paul A

There's nothing all that orderly about our solar system. For one
thing, there's no two planets or moons alike, and some items are
seriously skewed off track and otherwise just plain weird. It's as
though our solar system is relatively new to the universe (perhaps our
galaxy is made from at least two galaxies), and it seems to have
obtained parts of other spent or rogue items that are newer and older
than Earth. The planet Venus is certainly not acting nearly as old as
Earth, and Mars seems more than a billion years older than us, not to
mention that our extremely unusual moon/Selene doesn't seem to fit
either.

~ BG