From: John Woodgate on 7 Aug 2006 13:51 In message <18ued2tn182hri7mr7oqt27ulq8g2m86hj(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7 Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes >On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:09:51 -0400, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>In article <sGWttRp0vP1EFwXI(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk>, >>jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk says... >>> In message <ams9d2tksts40a3lndlfb3m1vu9391ridl(a)4ax.com>, dated Sat, 5 >>> Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> >>> writes >>> >It has so much BIST that it barely works at all. >>> >>> BIST? British Ingenuity Still Triumphs? >> >>No, British Ingenuity Sells Triumphs. > > >Evil, ugly cars. I was always an MG guy, myself. > The reference was almost certainly to the motor cycles, not the cars. But the Triumph Herald was a GOOD little car, especially the Brabham version, which should be classified as a guided missile. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Phat Bytestard on 7 Aug 2006 14:01 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:58:09 GMT, joseph2k <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> Gave us: >Eeyore wrote: > >> >> >> joseph2k wrote: >> >>> Eeyore wrote: >>> >>> >>> > John Larkin wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:06:47 +0100, Eeyore >>> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >The *truth* of the matter is that Israel's right wing, Hamas and >>> >> >Hezbollah are frankly all as bad as each other. None of them seeems >>> >> >prepared to let up. >>> >> > >>> >> >This will go on indefinitely by pursuing the 'eye for an eye' >>> >> >mentality. >>> >> >>> >> I don't agree. If Israel were able to sign a peace treaty with all its >>> >> neighbors, with defined borders, it would do so, and honor it. But >>> >> there are powerful Muslim factions that won't be satisfied with any >>> >> less than driving all Infidels out of all former Muslim countries. >>> > >>> > That sounds to me like you're agreeing there. >>> > >>> > >>> >> Israel's message is "mess with us and we'll tromp you good" which is >>> >> about all their enemies understand and respect. Pullbacks in Gaza and >>> >> southern Lebanon were just viewed as weakness and repaid in suicide >>> >> bombs and rockets. I frankly wish Israel had a better strategy *that >>> >> worked* but I can't imagine what it would look like, other than the >>> >> Masada thing. >>> > >>> > I've drawn a parallel between the Israel / Hezbollah situation and >>> > Britain / IRA. It needs wisdom and imagination to find a solution, not >>> > never-ending war. >>> > >>> > Graham >>> >>> You have made a false assumption; the IRA was amenable to reason, >>> Hezbollah is not. >> >> Actually, I said wisdom and imagination. With some luck those may lead to >> enough reason to get the job done. >> >> Graham > >I am not in the market for such rosy colored glasses at this time. Yeah... those rose colored cataracts are working for you just fine.
From: John Fields on 7 Aug 2006 14:10 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:44:51 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >John Fields wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:43:00 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> John Fields wrote: >>>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:24:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Woodgate wrote: >>>>>> In message <4ji12eF83vuqU2(a)individual.net>, dated Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Dirk >>>>>> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes >>>>>>> And it will have to be one with enough teeth and muscle to fire on the >>>>>>> Israelis as well as Hezbollah. >>>>>> Almost certainly it will never need to, in defence. Let us fervently >>>>>> hope that it never fires on Israel in aggression. >>>>> Given the number of UN positions attacked by the Israelis in the past, I >>>>> expect a serious force to be able to return such fire. >>>> --- >>>> So you'd like for Israel to be defeated? >>> If they attack UN forces - yes. >> >> --- >> Why don't you just admit it; you'd like to see Israel gone as well >> as all of Jewry. >> --- > >My political beliefs are here: >http://theconsensus.org/uk/introduction/index.html > >The bit you should look at is about here: >"We are nationalists in that we believe that every major cultural group >should have its own homeland and live under laws of its own choosing and >in its own way." > >In case logic is not your strong point, the word 'every' includes the Jews. --- Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her own laws and in her own way? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Phat Bytestard on 7 Aug 2006 14:11 On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:53:43 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) Gave us: >In article <jNve$zpSok1EFwHv(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk>, >John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>In message <44D63C58.CBBA6896(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 6 Aug >>2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >>>Jim Yanik wrote: >>> >>>> Saddam was using Oil-for-Food money to rebuild his palaces and fund WMD >>>> programs >>> >>>There weren't any WMDs ! >> >>No. A big surprise, isn't it? > >Saddam ruled by fear. People are afraid of WMDs. He had a strong motive >to lead his people and others to believe that he had WMDs. He was always >at risk of his own people rising up against him. > >I haven't heard of any effort by the US to buy equipment for finding >hidden WMDs. This makes it appear that they didn't really expect to have >to find them. > You ain't real bright then. Several industries have been bolstered by such efforts. Bomb sniffers, drug sniffers (chemicals), nuclear material probes, etc. You are truly clueless if you think we haven't been looking.
From: Eeyore on 7 Aug 2006 14:11
John Larkin wrote: > On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:55:35 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >Phat Bytestard wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:11:01 +0100, Eeyore > >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: > >> > >> >Frank Bemelman wrote: > >> > >> >> > In short, point us to your list of democracies - both the one for 1950 and > >> >> > the one for 2000. > >> >> > >> >> Does the actual number matter here? This is just one of JL's famous smoke > >> >> curtains, pretending as if the increase in democracies is an all American > >> >> achievement, for which the world - again - has to be thankful or something. > >> > > >> >Indeed. The USA probably contributed fairly insignificantly to that number. > >> > >> Can you really be *THAT* stupid? > > > >Do please by all means name those countries made into democracies by the USA since > >1950. > > > >Graham > > You could start with Poland and Hungary and those guys. Do please tell how you think the USA made them into democracies. Graham |