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From: John Woodgate on 7 Aug 2006 14:21 In message <7umed296qg2k96rhg962c1cbdfibv65c2l(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7 Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes >I think that now, however, when we see the handwriting on the wall we >have fewer compunctions about going after the author in a pre-emptive >way. But it says 'Mene, mene tekal upharsin.' -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on 7 Aug 2006 14:23 In message <44d781e0$0$11254$e4fe514c(a)dreader32.news.xs4all.nl>, dated Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> writes >You mean he got it backwards? That God is getting commands from Bush? Perhaps, but she may not take any notice of them. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 7 Aug 2006 14:36 John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:44:51 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax > <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> John Fields wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:43:00 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> John Fields wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:24:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>>>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Woodgate wrote: >>>>>>> In message <4ji12eF83vuqU2(a)individual.net>, dated Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Dirk >>>>>>> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes >>>>>>>> And it will have to be one with enough teeth and muscle to fire on the >>>>>>>> Israelis as well as Hezbollah. >>>>>>> Almost certainly it will never need to, in defence. Let us fervently >>>>>>> hope that it never fires on Israel in aggression. >>>>>> Given the number of UN positions attacked by the Israelis in the past, I >>>>>> expect a serious force to be able to return such fire. >>>>> --- >>>>> So you'd like for Israel to be defeated? >>>> If they attack UN forces - yes. >>> --- >>> Why don't you just admit it; you'd like to see Israel gone as well >>> as all of Jewry. >>> --- >> My political beliefs are here: >> http://theconsensus.org/uk/introduction/index.html >> >> The bit you should look at is about here: >> "We are nationalists in that we believe that every major cultural group >> should have its own homeland and live under laws of its own choosing and >> in its own way." >> >> In case logic is not your strong point, the word 'every' includes the Jews. > > --- > Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her > own laws and in her own way? No. The right of self defence has to be limited in a civilised society. If somebody slaps me I have no right to burn their house down with them and their family inside. The law recognises 'proportionate response'. Dirk
From: Reg Edwards on 7 Aug 2006 14:42 By 1942, 99% of the output of British factories and workshops was devoted to the war effort. A large proportion of workers and factory machine operators were housewives, women and girls. Much of it was aircraft, fighter, bomber, motor vehicle production, and especially shipbuilding. The Germans were not yet reduced to employing women in factories. Let alone on overtime. Goering's guns-instead-of-butter for housewives did not come until after the German defeat in the great Battle of Machines, around the City of Kursk on the Russian Steppes in June 1943. After Kursk, even Hitler must have realised the war was lost. But it was another two years before Russian shells and rockets began falling on Berlin. Very roughly, when the war started in 1939, the British merchant marine weighed 20 million tons. It had taken 100 years to build up, by far, the world's largest merchant navy. Brittania indeed ruled the waves. German U-boats in the North Atlantic, between 1939 and 1945, sank 20 million tons of merchant shipping. Sometimes at a rate of a 10,000 ton merchant ship every day. The cost in life amongst merchant seamen was enormous. Over 100,000 died. England was almost brought to its knees. All the essentials, food, clothing, coal, petrol, were severely rationed. But at the end of the war the British Mercantile Marine was still 20 million tons. Miracles had been acheived by the rivetters in the shipbuilding industry - in the shipyards at Birkenhead, Belfast, in Glasgow on the Clyde, on Tyneside and other smaller shipyards. But because we were on the winning side in the war, we sat on our arses and allowed other nations, also severely affected by war, to attract the business of conveying goods by sea. Now we see the results of our laziness. =====================================
From: Eeyore on 7 Aug 2006 14:46
Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 18:11:06 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" > <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> Gave us: > > >The US has turned into a goddamn terrorist nation. > > I hope they beat your door down. > > Saddam's mass graves state otherwise. > > Name any other country that has *ANY* torture chambers, The USA had quite a few by proxy. See 'extraordinary rendition' ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition Graham |