From: Frank Bemelman on
"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:38:47 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
> <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
>
>>"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> schreef in bericht
>>news:4jpfi8F95hb6U1(a)individual.net...
>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>> ---
>>>> Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her
>>>> own laws and in her own way?
>>>
>>> No.
>>> The right of self defence has to be limited in a civilised society. If
>>> somebody slaps me I have no right to burn their house down with them and
>>> their family inside.
>>> The law recognises 'proportionate response'.
>>
>>Civilised folks don't even need a law to see that.
>
> ---
> Hogwash.
>
> Civilized folks is where law came from.

Only because they started to realize they had less
civilized folks amongst them.

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From: Frank Bemelman on
"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:30:09 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"

> ---
> I think what you really want is for all of us (Americans) to believe
> that we're all horrible people and that we should mend our ways and
> start living our lives in a way of which you approve.
> ---

That took you a long time to figure out. Not all Americans though,
but more the likes of your leader, and yourself, for starters.


>>You had that attack coming. The unconditional financial support
>>of Israel, enabling them to play their 10-eye-for-an-eye strategy,
>>has caused that.
>
> ---
> Nope, what caused that was a madman who wanted to prove he could do
> it. Nothing more, nothing less.
> ---

Here you demonstrate what I call blind and deaf.

>>I'd wish they had no reason to do what they want to do. But
>>objectively, from their point of view, I can understand that
>>they are more than just a bit pissed off.
>
> ---
> Objectively?
> From their point of view?
>
> Now you _are_ being stupid, LOL!

No, just a poor way of putting it. I would have phrased it
better in Dutch.

> ---
> The acceptable way is to persevere until it's over.

Like Vietnam?

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From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:53:31 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <2n5fd2hdrp07d6mmtb6jpeu1uics4mtrjr(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7
>Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com>
>writes
>
>>I had a Sprite (totalled, crushed to half its original size, with Yours
>>Truly inside) and then an MG Midget, which I sold to an artist who
>>painted the ocean on it and keeps it on a display stand to this
>
>The Triumph 'lotus eater' [1] was the Spitfire. Details at:
>
>http://www.tssc.org.uk/
>
>[1] Not one of mine; due to an English teacher at my school.


The real breakthrough was the Mini and its tamed version, the Austin
America. The Mini was the first "modern" car: transverse 4,
front-wheel drive, integrated transaxle.

John

From: Jim Yanik on
John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:9BOZsDQYqG2EFw9W(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:

> In message <rllgd29r5f1cn50r87m4piua756ltktp6t(a)4ax.com>, dated Tue, 8
> Aug 2006, xray <notreally(a)hotmail.invalid> writes
>
>>John, it's good to see you back!
>
> Thank you.
>
>>I view your well informed but basically neutral postings in threads
>>like this as similar to control rods in a nuclear pile.
>
> Well, perhaps it's not a case of just absorbing the verbal neutrons but
> deflecting them to more interesting nuclei.
>
> Incidentally, BBC TV did show Bush admitting to saying 'nucular' and
> trying to pronounce 'nuclear', with difficulty. But he isn't the first
> President to mispronounce the word. Wasn't it Nixon who started it?

Jimmy Carter?

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From: Jim Yanik on
John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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> In message <44D84DE5.4A07C7DA(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>
>>" Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar
>>of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary
>>to Bush's claim that we hate freedom.

Gee,how about WOMEN? they don't get much freedom under Islamic rule.
Nor do Jews,or liberals.Liberals always "forget" about that stuff.

>
> Read that carefully; it's nonsense, isn't it. 'Free men do not forfeit
> security. We do not forfeit security. Therefore we are free men.' You
> can prove a horse is a cow (count the legs) with that brand of logic.
>
> Enlightened slave owners, from Roman times if not before, gave their
> slaves excellent security. It saved having to buy and train new ones.
> Enlightened managements treat electronic engineers like that, too.
>>
>>If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example -
>>Sweden? "

Because they are no obstacle to Islamic ambitions.
The US,Britain,and Israel are.

>
> Bush or anyone else doesn't have to explain what ObL doesn't do.



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