From: John Fields on 8 Aug 2006 08:34 On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:38:47 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote: >"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> schreef in bericht >news:4jpfi8F95hb6U1(a)individual.net... >> John Fields wrote: >>> --- >>> Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her >>> own laws and in her own way? >> >> No. >> The right of self defence has to be limited in a civilised society. If >> somebody slaps me I have no right to burn their house down with them and >> their family inside. >> The law recognises 'proportionate response'. > >Civilised folks don't even need a law to see that. --- Hogwash. Civilized folks is where law came from. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Frank Bemelman on 8 Aug 2006 08:37 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht news:h9sgd25us6qgn0kbuqo46lce1720e2ig75(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:21:44 +0100, John Woodgate > <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>In message <7umed296qg2k96rhg962c1cbdfibv65c2l(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7 >>Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes >> >>>I think that now, however, when we see the handwriting on the wall we >>>have fewer compunctions about going after the author in a pre-emptive >>>way. >> >>But it says 'Mene, mene tekal upharsin.' > > --- > I think that would apply more to the kingdoms of Jerry Falwell and > his ilk than to the US, but I was referring to events like > acquisition of nuclear weaponry by those with no respect for life. Would you be so kind and immediately turn in all your nuclear weaponry. Thank you very much. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: John Fields on 8 Aug 2006 08:45 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:24:29 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote: >On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:10:11 -0500, John Fields wrote: > >> Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her >> own laws and in her own way? > >I merely know that I detest the mindset that rationalizes murdering >your neighbors and their wives and children as "defense". --- Then you agree that Hezbollah are murderers and the Israelis are defending themselves against murderers. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Keith on 8 Aug 2006 08:44 In article <44D87937.16E780AD(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com says... > > > xray wrote: > > > On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:04:06 +0100, Eeyore > > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> I don't know the early details, but the first big computer I heard about > > >> was to compute firing tables for artillery guns in WWII. I think the > > >> first "bug" story occured with that project and captain Grace Hopper. > > > > > >See the film 'Brazil' for an interesting context. Worth seeing anyway as it happens. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug > > > > > > I do know about the bug, I've got a better picture of that notebook page > > hanging on my wall. > > > > Brazil? > > > > I've seen the strange movie but it's been a while and I'm not sure where > > exactly is the relevance to these early computers. > > The tale begins as the result of a computer bug - literally a bug in the works. It's a > fabulous piece of work. A bit like 1984/Brave New World on steroids but including > torture/brainwashing and 'political terrorism' too ( on both sides ). Yet it still > manages to be funny ! > > > > P.S. > > Grace used to hand out nanoseconds. Do you know about that? > > I didn't. Do tell. Foot long piece of phone wire. -- Keith
From: Reg Edwards on 8 Aug 2006 08:54
> And yes, I have a problem with that. I don't enjoy seeing > people with problems, regardless where they live. ==================================== Other people's problems are very interesting. It's other people's problems which sustain this thread. Not living in the Lebonan we should consider ourselves fortunate at being able to take a painless, light-hearted, detached view and get snatches of it on the box. It's now becoming boring. But sooner or later the subject will change. =================================== |