From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:34:39 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >John Woodgate wrote:
> >
> >> In message <44D83E8F.3DA551(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
> >> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
> >>
> >> >Sorry, John but I don't see that the argument that the US was attacked
> >> >because of jealousy over the richness of the western lifestyle holds
> >> >any water at all.
> >>
> >> Neither do I. Western lifestyle is contrary to many tenets of
> >> established religions, Islam in particular but not exclusively. The
> >> clerics see their raison d'tre threatened, and they are not wrong. So
> >> they fire up their militants - 'jihad' is not just a label, they really
> >> mean 'holy war'. Christianity largely went through a similar phase
> >> around 500 years ago, waging war not only against people of other faiths
> >> but, in many cases with even more spilling of blood, among the factions
> >> and about the merest slivers of difference of interpretation.
> >
> >I entirely agree with your clarification.
> >
> >Another mistake I see the US making is the belief that *all* Moslems are wedded
> >to this 'backward' view.
>
> That's silly. W made a point of meeting with Muslims in mosques
> immediately after 9/11. We have a sizable Islamic population around
> here (including one of my engineers), mosques and all, and nobody I
> personally know thinks anything of the sort. Officially, we work with
> any number of Islamic nations as allies.
>
> You really think Americans are identical dopes. We're neither.

So why do you publicly choose to vilify Moslems ?


> You should travel more.

I've travelled enough to have been at least in a 'half Moslem' country. Not to
mention others of different faiths.

Graham

From: John Fields on
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:54:41 +0100, "Reg Edwards"
<g4fgq.regp(a)ZZZbtinternet.com> wrote:

>
>> And yes, I have a problem with that. I don't enjoy seeing
>> people with problems, regardless where they live.
>====================================
>
>Other people's problems are very interesting. It's other people's
>problems which sustain this thread.
>
>Not living in the Lebonan we should consider ourselves fortunate at
>being able to take a painless, light-hearted, detached view and get
>snatches of it on the box.
>
>It's now becoming boring. But sooner or later the subject will
>change.
>===================================

Yup.

In the meantime, I'm outta here; got a paying project crying for
attention. :-)


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:45:23 -0500, John Fields wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:24:29 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
> <null(a)example.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:10:11 -0500, John Fields wrote:
>>
>>> Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her
>>> own laws and in her own way?
>>
>>I merely know that I detest the mindset that rationalizes murdering
>>your neighbors and their wives and children as "defense".
>
> ---
> Then you agree that Hezbollah are murderers and the Israelis are
> defending themselves against murderers.

Absolutely NOT! The Israelis are doing just as much murder, if not
more, than the Hezbollah.

But, you'll never admit that because it would be to admit that
you are wrong and have been all along.

Thanks,
Rich

From: Eeyore on


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> >
> > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:10:11 -0500, John Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, then, you support Israel's right to defend herself under her
> > > > own laws and in her own way?
> > >
> > > I merely know that I detest the mindset that rationalizes murdering
> > > your neighbors and their wives and children as "defense".
> >
> > Amen to that. For which we'll be branded leftish weenies of course !
> >
> > Graham
>
> In your case it would be a leftist "Vienna Sausage"

Here's the US version
http://www.wienerschnitzel.com/

I couldn't help noticing the BSE statement btw. How are your ppl saying it
happened ?

Graham

From: Rich the Philosophizer on
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:59:43 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> John Fields wrote:
>>
>> > In other words, I had no business slapping you in the first place,
>> > so you should make it your business to make sure that I can never
>> > slap you again.
>> >
>> > Do you have a problem with that?
>>
>> The problem in the Middle Eastern context is 'who slapped first'.
>> Your argument can just as well be used to justify the actions of
>> Hezbollah, Hamas and the PLO as Israel.
>
> Ad Nauseam in fact. How many millenia should we go back ?
>

Before the beginning of Time itself.

Thanks,
Rich
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