New Book of Rules
in [Design]
|
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:07 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:57:29 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: > > > >Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > > > >> Eeyore wrote: > >> > > >> > Phat Bytestard wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:21:30 +0100, Eeyore > >> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: > >> >> > >> >>> As did the USA with their Norden bombsight that didn't actually > >> >>> deliver the goods in practice. > >> >> That would be Norton. > >> > > >> > No it wouldn't. Can't get anything right as usual...... > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norden_bombsight > >> > > >> > > >> >> We fire bombed Dresden for the UK. We didn't need no stinkin' > >> >> bombsights. It was at night, and we dropped a huge salvo. > >> > > >> > There was no " for the UK " about it. > >> > > >> > Graham > >> > >> It was actually 'for' the USSR according to documents from the time. > >> > >> Dirk > > > >Yes of course. To assist their advance. > > You're an idiot. Bombing a town's factories could slow a war > effort. It was the rail yard that was the primary target to prevent the movement of troops to the Eastern Front. > FIRE bombing an entire city has NO military value whatsoever. It is a common *mistake* that Dresden had no military value. > It was a retaliation for hitler's bombs into London. Period. No, not at all. You'd provide some backup for claims like that. The Russian Request for Allied Bombing of Communications in the Dresden Area: https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/dresden.htm Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:09 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On 9 Aug 2006 14:58:30 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> Gave us: > > >John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in > >news:8e5id216ookd9v1j8k7hpoet1du097hv02(a)4ax.com: > > > >> On 8 Aug 2006 21:18:15 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote: > >> > >>>John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in > >> > >>>> --- > >>>> The problem in the middle east is a "Hatfields and McCoys" mentality > >>> > >>>Not really.Israel would just as soon leave the Lebanses alone. > >> > >> --- > >> Right, thanks. > >> > >> > > > >Interestingly,it's IRAN and SYRIA that are simply using Lebanon as their > >*battlefield* against Israel,and the Lebanese are just dupes.they get their > >country demolished,their peoples killed or maimed,and Iran and Syria get > >the benefits,and none of the negatives. > > Precisely correct observation! Which means of course that Israel is playing into the hands of Syrian and Iran. A point I made much earlier when saying that Israel's actions are ultimately going to be counter-productive. Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:11 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:28:45 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax > <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> Gave us: > > >Keith wrote: > >> In article <91gid25upsoq7uvato0h0g9egur7rh5svs(a)4ax.com>, > >> phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org says... > >>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:37:13 +0100, Eeyore > >>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> John Woodgate wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In message <4jqtm0F9b7r6U1(a)individual.net>, dated Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Dirk > >>>>> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes > >>>>>> Why not take Bin Laden at his word, and read *why* he attacked the US? > >>>>> Citation? > >>>> "We decided to destroy towers in America," because "we want to regain the > >>>> freedom of our nation," Bin Ladin said. > >>>> > >>> What "nation" does Bin Laden call "his"? > >>> > >> Islam. > >> > >That's right. > >And Bush and the FBI know *exactly* where the Nation of Islam is hiding > >out in the US... > >Something must be done! > > They are on all three sides of us. We got them right where they > want us. > > Then, we got sympathetic retarded bastards like you in the mix, so > we are totally surrounded. Tell me something if you will. Do you want to see all Moslems erased from the face of the earth ? Gragham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:13 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On 9 Aug 2006 23:54:46 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> Gave us: > > >(actually many war crimes,as it's also prohibited to use weapons to > >deliberately cause or enhance civilian casualties;the rockets Hezbollah > >fires have been modified to include thousands of ball bearings to kill or > >maim civilians.I've seen pictures of the damage one of these small- > >warhead/bearing-enhanced rockets causes;it's very nasty.And the warheads > >themselves are too small to be intended to do damage to military targets.) > >> > Another 100% complete VIOLATION of the UN charters as well as the > Geneva convention. Hezbollah doesn't have a seat at the UN. Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:29
Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 06:48:58 +0100, John Woodgate > <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us: > > >In message <iogid2pd7udgeknltr9q8osf4nmvumuikr(a)4ax.com>, dated Wed, 9 > >Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes > > > >> We fire bombed Dresden for the UK. We didn't need no stinkin' > >>bombsights. It was at night, and we dropped a huge salvo. > > > >I don't think the US did any night bombing at that time; it was RAF at > >night and USAAF in daylight, suffering large losses. > > Dresden, in particular, was a night raid, and was a US operation. " So it fell to RAF Bomber Command to carry out the first raid. During the evening of February 13 796 Avro Lancasters and 9 De Havilland Mosquitoes were dispatched in two separate waves and dropped 1,478 tons of high explosive and 1,182 tons of incendiary bombs by the early hours of February 14 The second attack, 3 hours later, was an all-Lancaster attack by aircraft of 1, 3, 6 and 8 Groups.....529 Lancasters dropped more than 1,800 tons of bombs with great accuracy between 01:21 and 01:45 Later on the 14th from 12:17 until 12:30 311 American B-17s dropped 771 tons of bombs on Dresden, with the railway yards as their aiming point " Last time I checked 12:30 was during the day not the night ! " The Americans continued the bombing on February 15 dropping 466 tons of bombs " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II RAF Bomber Command 4460 tons of bombs delivered USAAF 1237 tons Graham |