From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:31 Jim Yanik wrote: > joseph2k <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in > news:0dyCg.8255$uo6.5221(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com: > > > Jim Yanik wrote: > > > >> John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in > >> news:2bsed2lrh07brpplqqhuod9ora8phrcet3(a)4ax.com: > > >>> There were no WMDs found because they were moved before we got > >>> there. > >> > >> Evidence they were moved to Syria,by air.("humanitarian relief > >> flights") I believe Israel believes they were moved to Syria,and they > >> probably have the best field intelligence in the region. > >> Perhaps one reason why they haven't bombed Syria,even though they > >> deserve it. > >> > > > > Bushit and rabid speculation; > > Hardly;Israel believes it. Big Deal !!! No-one else with any brains does. > The US may have satellite evidence of such > activity,or not -orbits are known.If they do,they may think it politically > or militarily unwise to release it. Utterly ridiculous. Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:32 Jim Yanik wrote: > the UN is a JOKE. Mostly US and Israel haters. Have you ever considered that Israel and the US might be on the end of some criticism because of their *behaviour* ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:36 David Brown wrote: > John Larkin wrote: > > > > I don't know about antiquated, but it is certainly the oldest. The USA > > did, after all, invent modern democracy around 1776, when both England > > and France were ruled mostly by kings and lords. > > No, the USA invented American democracy around 1776. Given that the > nature of democracy (who is allowed to vote, for what purposes, how > often and in what manner) has changed continuously since early Greek > democracy up to and including modern trends such as gerrymandering, > untrustworthy electronic voting machines, and targeted voter > registration problems. > > It was the Romans who first used something roughly equivalent to > "modern" democracy, and for modern Europe, it would be England with the > Magna Carta in 1215. My country of birth has the oldest Parliament in continuous existence. Over 1000 yrs old. http://www.tynwald.org.im/ Eat your heart out USA. Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2006 06:39 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:02:53 GMT, joseph2k <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> > Gave us: > > >The first usable computer was brought to us by Charles Babbage. > > Not true. The Abacus was centuries earlier. The abacus is a *calculator*, not a computer. Graham
From: John Woodgate on 10 Aug 2006 06:50
In message <1155203528.662197.76040(a)75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, dated Thu, 10 Aug 2006, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org writes >The U.S. constitution and politcal culture still give disproportionate >power to a rich elite - "The people who own the country ought to govern >it." - and is long overdue for a few bug fixes. More than 'bug fixes' is required, and not only in US. The concept of the 'people who own the country ought to govern it' is very old and is not essentially bad, but it is if 'disproportionate'. The people who 'own the country' have invested in it, in one way or another, even if the 'owner' is a feudal baron running an estate employing a hundred servants. It's only reasonable to allow that person to have a say in the running of the country, so that, for example, someone doesn't dam the river way upstream and deprive the estate of its water supply. In the same way, the servant who has half an acre and a cow has the right to have a say in whether it would be better to have a co-operative farm with economies of scale, instead of tiny individual holdings (see France, for example). A feudal monarch reasonably has the right to obtain support from the barons, in money and manpower, to defend the nation from enemies. This is ALL OK, IF it's kept under control, and democracy and constitutional monarchy are ways of (attempting to) keep it under control. Democracy doesn't work very well, but it's probably the best we have; benign dictatorship works better (and much more efficiently - see Mussolini's trains) while it remains benign, but it doesn't remain benign. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK |