From: John Woodgate on 10 Aug 2006 06:51 In message <44DB0C19.63F75DB(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >My country of birth has the oldest Parliament in continuous existence. >Over 1000 >yrs old. >http://www.tynwald.org.im/ But it wasn't fully democratic for all that time (and maybe still isn't). -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on 10 Aug 2006 06:53 In message <44DB0656.C6B51454(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >Do you want to see all Moslems erased from the face of the earth ? That isn't the problem; it's the Muslims that want everyone else erased that are the problem, and ONLY those Muslims, not the vast majority. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: joseph2k on 10 Aug 2006 07:06 Eeyore wrote: > > > Rich Grise wrote: > >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:37:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> > "Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie" wrote: >> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:41:58 -0500, John Fields wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:12:18 +0100, Eeyore >> >> >>Phat Bytestard wrote: >> >> >>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:29:14 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > Yes, it does. If you're in the paper products or produce >> >> >>> > business. >> >> >>> >It would be damn hard to make money selling apples and other >> >> >>> >fruit >> >> >>> >without growing them on trees. It would also be very hard to >> >> >>> >build decent homes without lumber, which grows on trees, as well. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yep... even the media that the "money" got printed on came from >> >> >>> trees. >> >> >> >> >> >>Rag has been traditionally used actually ! You can't get much right >> >> >>can you ? >> >> > >> >> > I might be late with this, (haven't yet read the rest of the thread) >> >> > but where do you think rag came from? >> >> >> >> Uh, cotton and linen? I doubt if they make much paper from nylon rags. >> > >> > The 'non-weenies' think they come from cotton trees and linen trees it >> > seems. >> >> Well, to get linen, you have to kill the plant, but they set seed and >> new plants will grow in a year. :-) > > I see that flax can be used to make paper too ( also for banknotes ). > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flax > > Graham Yes, but it is usully a minor ingrediant. Synthetic components are becomming much more frequent. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: Frank Bemelman on 10 Aug 2006 07:33 "Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> schreef in bericht news:Xns981BE0A4C731jyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.84... > Hardly;Israel believes it.The US may have satellite evidence of such > activity,or not -orbits are known.If they do,they may think it politically > or militarily unwise to release it. Ah, there's the crystal ball rant again. Thanks! -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: John Larkin on 10 Aug 2006 11:04
On 10 Aug 2006 02:52:08 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >Your current situation is one where people with the money to finance >extended advertising campaigns - not to mention judicial campaigns >extending to the Supreme Court - exercise a disproportionate amount of >power over the election process and the people who get elected. This is >inequitable and undemocratic. That aspect of money isn't a serious problem. A candidate for public office will be financed if he's truly viable. In that sense, the advertising budget knocks out the un-electable loonies and spoilers. A more serious money-related problem is regionalism driven by pork. But overall, the system works very well, so you can't complain too much about the details. John |