From: John Woodgate on
In message <44DB0C19.63F75DB(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Thu, 10 Aug
2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>My country of birth has the oldest Parliament in continuous existence.
>Over 1000
>yrs old.
>http://www.tynwald.org.im/

But it wasn't fully democratic for all that time (and maybe still
isn't).
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From: John Woodgate on
In message <44DB0656.C6B51454(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Thu, 10 Aug
2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes

>Do you want to see all Moslems erased from the face of the earth ?

That isn't the problem; it's the Muslims that want everyone else erased
that are the problem, and ONLY those Muslims, not the vast majority.
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From: joseph2k on
Eeyore wrote:

>
>
> Rich Grise wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:37:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>> > "Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie" wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:41:58 -0500, John Fields wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:12:18 +0100, Eeyore
>> >> >>Phat Bytestard wrote:
>> >> >>> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:29:14 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > Yes, it does. If you're in the paper products or produce
>> >> >>> > business.
>> >> >>> >It would be damn hard to make money selling apples and other
>> >> >>> >fruit
>> >> >>> >without growing them on trees. It would also be very hard to
>> >> >>> >build decent homes without lumber, which grows on trees, as well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Yep... even the media that the "money" got printed on came from
>> >> >>> trees.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Rag has been traditionally used actually ! You can't get much right
>> >> >>can you ?
>> >> >
>> >> > I might be late with this, (haven't yet read the rest of the thread)
>> >> > but where do you think rag came from?
>> >>
>> >> Uh, cotton and linen? I doubt if they make much paper from nylon rags.
>> >
>> > The 'non-weenies' think they come from cotton trees and linen trees it
>> > seems.
>>
>> Well, to get linen, you have to kill the plant, but they set seed and
>> new plants will grow in a year. :-)
>
> I see that flax can be used to make paper too ( also for banknotes ).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flax
>
> Graham

Yes, but it is usully a minor ingrediant. Synthetic components are
becomming much more frequent.

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From: Frank Bemelman on
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> schreef in bericht
news:Xns981BE0A4C731jyanikkuanet(a)129.250.170.84...

> Hardly;Israel believes it.The US may have satellite evidence of such
> activity,or not -orbits are known.If they do,they may think it politically
> or militarily unwise to release it.

Ah, there's the crystal ball rant again. Thanks!

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From: John Larkin on
On 10 Aug 2006 02:52:08 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:


>Your current situation is one where people with the money to finance
>extended advertising campaigns - not to mention judicial campaigns
>extending to the Supreme Court - exercise a disproportionate amount of
>power over the election process and the people who get elected. This is
>inequitable and undemocratic.

That aspect of money isn't a serious problem. A candidate for public
office will be financed if he's truly viable. In that sense, the
advertising budget knocks out the un-electable loonies and spoilers.

A more serious money-related problem is regionalism driven by pork.

But overall, the system works very well, so you can't complain too
much about the details.

John