From: Eeyore on


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> >
> > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> >
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > you're just another brainless Eurosheep. :(
> > > >
> > > > I can think for myself. Something that seems beyond your capability.
> > > >
> > > > Graham
> > >
> > > No, I think that you're an effeminate Eurosheep.
> >
> > Your obsession with gender issues is again noted.
> >
> > Graham
>
> Not an obsession. Its just so rare that I see a male who refuses to
> act like a man.

It's so rare for me to see someone with such a bizarre notion of what 'being a
man' means ! It's not smart to be cannon-fodder you know.


Graham

From: Frithiof Andreas Jensen on

"Fred Abse" <excretatauris(a)cerebrumconfus.it> skrev i en meddelelse
news:pan.2006.07.28.09.42.17.706029(a)cerebrumconfus.it...
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:36:35 +0000, Phat Bytestard wrote:
>
>> List for me the scientific or medical accomplishments made by ANY
>> arab (or islamic) nation.
>
> Algebra, the concept of zero as a numeral, the Arabic numerical system we
> still use, many advances in astronomy.
>
> Post-Roman, pre-Renaissance Europe was scientifically way behind the
> Arabs.

Try something in THIS century!!

The dubious credit for alledged achievements more than 1200 years ago is
used up by now!!


From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:06:47 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The *truth* of the matter is that Israel's right wing, Hamas and Hezbollah are frankly
> >all as bad as each other. None of them seeems prepared to let up.
> >
> >This will go on indefinitely by pursuing the 'eye for an eye' mentality.
>
> I don't agree. If Israel were able to sign a peace treaty with all its
> neighbors, with defined borders, it would do so, and honor it. But
> there are powerful Muslim factions that won't be satisfied with any
> less than driving all Infidels out of all former Muslim countries.

That sounds to me like you're agreeing there.


> Israel's message is "mess with us and we'll tromp you good" which is
> about all their enemies understand and respect. Pullbacks in Gaza and
> southern Lebanon were just viewed as weakness and repaid in suicide
> bombs and rockets. I frankly wish Israel had a better strategy *that
> worked* but I can't imagine what it would look like, other than the
> Masada thing.

I've drawn a parallel between the Israel / Hezbollah situation and Britain / IRA. It needs
wisdom and imagination to find a solution, not never-ending war.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:00:38 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >We'll see how things turn out then !
> >
> >The crazy thing is that Israel's simply stirring up a hornet's nest. It's going to
> >prove counter-productive IMHO.
>
> They should just sit snug and enjoy the colorful rockets?

I'd hardly suggest that !


> What if the end result is that Iran and Syria stop meddling with
> Lebanon,

I suspect the current war is sheer joy to both Syria and Iran. Syria had just been
kicked out of Lebanon and now they can see a way back in.

> and let the Lebanese run their own country and army?

The trouble is that there *never has been* a credible Lebanese army. If there was -
there likely wouldn't be a problem.

The only sensible answer I can see would be UN forces to act as a defence force for
Lebanon.


> What if
> Israel were to be recognized as a country by all the neighboring
> countries, and all were at peace?

I'm sure Lebanon would be delighted not to get invaded again ! Egypt's already at peace
with Israel. Not sure what the exact situation is with Jordan but it's been peaceful
enough on that border for ages. So that leaves Syria.


> What so many Arabs don't appreciate is that Israel could have been a
> nucleus for democracy, prosperity, technology, and progress for all
> the Arab world.

Shame that Israel kicked out and / or made unwelcome so many Arabs then ? That's what
the 'refugee' thing is about. Didn't you know ?

Graham

From: Frank Bemelman on
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> schreef in
bericht news:44CED357.9747F390(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com...
>
>
> John Larkin wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:38:13 +0100, Eeyore
> > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >And as for saying perhaps that Israel is responding in kind - one
expects a higher
> > >standard of behaviour from a nation that chooses to present itself as
civilised and
> > >western - or else one might righty conclude that they're not worthy of
our support.
> >
> > Their "standard of behavior" is that they want to live, and are
> > willing to let others live as long as they are left alone. The
> > standard of behavior of Iran and Hamas is "kill all the Jews."
>
> The *truth* of the matter is that Israel's right wing, Hamas and
Hezbollah are frankly
> all as bad as each other. None of them seeems prepared to let up.
>
> This will go on indefinitely by pursuing the 'eye for an eye' mentality.

You mean '10 eyes for an eye'. Israel (a 100% USA operated puppet on a
string) never has shown any proportion in their actions.


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