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From: John Larkin on 1 Aug 2006 11:14 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:29:10 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:06:47 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >The *truth* of the matter is that Israel's right wing, Hamas and Hezbollah are frankly >> >all as bad as each other. None of them seeems prepared to let up. >> > >> >This will go on indefinitely by pursuing the 'eye for an eye' mentality. >> >> I don't agree. If Israel were able to sign a peace treaty with all its >> neighbors, with defined borders, it would do so, and honor it. But >> there are powerful Muslim factions that won't be satisfied with any >> less than driving all Infidels out of all former Muslim countries. > >That sounds to me like you're agreeing there. > Only halfway. Only one side in this conflict is rational, and the other side is in love with death. > >> Israel's message is "mess with us and we'll tromp you good" which is >> about all their enemies understand and respect. Pullbacks in Gaza and >> southern Lebanon were just viewed as weakness and repaid in suicide >> bombs and rockets. I frankly wish Israel had a better strategy *that >> worked* but I can't imagine what it would look like, other than the >> Masada thing. > >I've drawn a parallel between the Israel / Hezbollah situation and Britain / IRA. It needs >wisdom and imagination to find a solution, not never-ending war. Unfortunately, it takes wisdom on both sides, as finally evolved in Ireland. John
From: John Larkin on 1 Aug 2006 11:20 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:50:38 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Phat Bytestard wrote: > >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:25:54 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> > As for bombing the UN too !!!!! >> >> For all you know (trust me you do not) it was Hezbollah that killed >> them, and blamed it on the Israelis. > >Actually, think it came from a plane, and the last time I checked, Hezbollah >didn't have an air force ! > The Hezbollah rockets are only crudely aimed. They could be set up anywhere and fired by timers or cell phones or whatever. But thay are in fact set up in towns and villages, next to homes and schools and UN posts, to maximize deaths of Lebanese civilians when the Israelis go after the launch sites. The Iranians *want* a lot of Lebanese civilian casualties. John
From: John Larkin on 1 Aug 2006 11:22 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:52:23 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > >Are you saying there are no 'extremist factions' within Israel ? > Certainly, as there are in the USA and the UK and most everywhere else. But they don't have private stashes of rockets. John
From: John Larkin on 1 Aug 2006 11:28 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:06:18 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:13:23 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >John Larkin wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:04:26 +0100, Eeyore >> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >This is the kind of attitude that makes the USA so truly loathesome. >> >> >> >> We like it! >> > >> >Which only goes to show how out of sync the USA is with the entire rest of the >> >world. Along with gas-guzzling SUVs, 400 lb human beings and all that other >> >nonsense too. >> >> Whoa, we're talking some serious nationalistic stereotyping here. > >You'll see more of those things in the USA than anywhere else ! I do hate those >stereotypes too but the last time I saw some American tourists in London I'm afraid >they simply fitted the bill perfectly. Oh, give them a couple of weeks of British cuisine and they'll slim right down. >> As if Europe is "the entire rest of the world", which it sure ain't. > >It's more 'in sync' with it though. > I don't think so. Certainly not with China or Africa or South America. Europe has consciously worked towards irrelevance, and unconsiously ignored its own success. It's entirely illogical that France and the UK are still permanent members of the Security Council... laughable actually. > >> And I recently read that the French women are getting fat, too. Last >> time I was in Oxford, most of the engineers and scientists I was >> working with were a lot rounder than I am. >> >> My wife weighs 105, and I like her that way. >> >> How much do you weigh? > >More than I'd like I'll admit. Not enough exercise recently. I don't even know the >figure to be honest. > Ha! John
From: John Larkin on 1 Aug 2006 11:42
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:29:31 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:05:45 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >You guys wouldn't understand real news untainted by US bias if you were slapped round the face with >> >it. >> >> Hey, we get an hour of BBC news on TV every night, and sometimes I >> manage to stay awake for a lot of it. And there's the always >> thought-provoking Page 3. > >The Sun is more comic than newspaper tbh :~) and I'm sure you have your equivalents. > >What channel do you see the BBC news on btw ? I dare say you're hardly typical though. I for my part >often catch ABC's news headlines on BBC News 24. > We get three different PBS (the non-commercial Public Broadcasting System) stations here. They run lots of BBC stuff, actually: Masterpiece Theater, the Mystery series (Morse, Dalgliesh, Linley, Miss Marple), BBC news and documentaries, Monte Python, and some stunningly bad British situation comedies. Really, you seem to believe that all Americans are fat idiots who only listen to Rush Limbaugh and never leave their home towns. If you'll excuse the criticism, that seems awfully provincial of you. John |