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From: Bob Butler on 6 May 2010 20:29 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:eUVgWiX7KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... <cut> > Have the fanboys shown up there, too? I didn't see any of that garbage in > a quick look-see. If you build it, they will come.
From: Schmidt on 6 May 2010 20:29 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:hrvk1j$u8o$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Schmidt formulated the question : > > But let Karl respond first (hope he's reading this thread) - > > speaking for myself, I would like it very much, when a > > wellknown site, with a focus and a history regarding > > "community aspects of vbclassic" would act as the > > *leading* mailing-list-server - and if we can get one or two > > additional servers (as yours), which have the capabilities too, > > to work as E-Mail-Mirrors for the "leading-list" - all the better. > > As long as my current server holds out, I could see contributing a bit > to this. Can't take it on as the lead, though, because I just don't > know how long I can keep the old box running. Is this what you're > asking? Regarding "old box" - the CPU-power is not that critical, whilst acting as a mailing-list-server - it's more the ...@mvps.org suffix which the community could find appealing and trustworthy (assuming we talk about that domain, when we talk about "your server"). Olaf
From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 20:42 Bob Butler wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote... > <cut> >> Have the fanboys shown up there, too? I didn't see any of that garbage in >> a quick look-see. > > If you build it, they will come. Heh, yeah, but comp.lang.basic.visual.misc has been around for ages, and folks like Paul wouldn't even recognize Mike over there. ;-) -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 20:47 Schmidt wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb... >> Schmidt formulated the question : >>> But let Karl respond first (hope he's reading this thread) - >>> speaking for myself, I would like it very much, when a >>> wellknown site, with a focus and a history regarding >>> "community aspects of vbclassic" would act as the >>> *leading* mailing-list-server - and if we can get one or two >>> additional servers (as yours), which have the capabilities too, >>> to work as E-Mail-Mirrors for the "leading-list" - all the better. >> >> As long as my current server holds out, I could see contributing a bit >> to this. Can't take it on as the lead, though, because I just don't >> know how long I can keep the old box running. Is this what you're >> asking? > > Regarding "old box" - the CPU-power is not that > critical, whilst acting as a mailing-list-server - it's > more the ...@mvps.org suffix which the community > could find appealing and trustworthy (assuming we talk > about that domain, when we talk about "your server"). Ahhhh, yeah, I do have control over that domain, too. It's not really the cycles I'd be worried about, though. I know pretty well what to expect there. It's just the hardware in general is starting to show some serious wear and tear. Enough so I've moved my own personal domains to other places. So what would be the setup, exactly? New/different mail server software doing the list processing? -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Schmidt on 6 May 2010 20:53
"Schmidt" <sss(a)online.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:%23Zpk2sX7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Oh my, it happened again (sending an unfinished post), so where was I... ....Mailing-Lists are the standard communication in nearly all ....OpenSource-developer-communities. .... ....They usually set up MailMan as the MailService and then ....have pages like that: ....http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailman later on accessing it directly with MailClients, which support a hierarchic view of "normal E-Mails", according to "mailing-list-style" ... *or* they use a web-interface on the mailing-lists content as e.g.: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.sqlite.general *or* they access the list per NewsClient over NNTP: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.sqlite.general This link shows, how gmane handles the links to the underlying mailing-lists on which it offers its free services. http://gmane.org/list-address.php?group=gmane.comp.db.sqlite.general and here's the general gmane-page for the sqlite-mailing-list. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.sqlite.general So, I would say we should seriously consider that approach, since we would be able to bring it to work "in reasonable time, which does not depend on "usenet approval-procedures" (and that for a whole lot of vbclassic-groups in other countries too) - we would be able to provide the "leading content" on our own (ideally wellknown to the community) servers + we could rely on a free NewsService which is really easy to setup in any NewsReader (as said already to Kevin, just try it out against the server 'news.gmane.org' at standard-port 119). Olaf |