From: chrisv on
nospam wrote:

> chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Too fscking stupid to understand that "wireless transfer of data" just
>> isn't easy,
>
>maybe not for you, but most people have no problems using wireless. in
>fact, it's very easy.

Naive, clueless, newbie idiot.

From: Warren Oates on
In article <250320100653597575%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> maybe not for you, but most people have no problems using wireless. in
> fact, it's very easy.

.... and slower than ratshit.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Mocassin joe on

"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:250320100653597575%nospam(a)nospam.invalid...
> In article <m1pmq5ljp447vadda7oeihltediuokg5n2(a)4ax.com>, chrisv
> <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Too fscking stupid to understand that "wireless transfer of data" just
>> isn't easy,

Snipping in your failed attempt to win? You are quite the worm.




From: Invid Fan on
In article <240320102130494857%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <250320100016136727%invid(a)loclanet.com>, Invid Fan
> <invid(a)loclanet.com> wrote:
>
> > And what rights does the distributor hold once the product is sold and
> > no longer under their control. When the iTunes store was first
> > announced, Jobs made a comment to the effect that the store would only
> > sell "good" music,
>
> doubtful. do you have a link to where he said this?
>
No, I'm going by memory from watching the keynote speech at the local
Apple store. IIRC other web stores that were popping up were promoting
the fact new and small artists could upload and sell their stuff and
Apple was saying no, it must meet certain standards.

> > and people couldn't just upload and sell any old
> > thing they had made.
>
> that has more to do with the record companies protecting their
> interests, versus apple allegedly wanting to only allow 'good' music.
>
I honestly think it had more to do with sound quality then actual
content. Think the type of stuff that shows up on Youtube, but being
charged for.

> > This is fine, and relates to your Walmart example.
> > However, iTunes wasn't the only way to get music for your iPod so users
> > were in no way limited by the taste of Apple or Jobs.
> >
> > With the iPad, however, users are limited in that respect when it comes
> > to apps. If some idiot wants a "shake the baby" app... well, its their
> > iPad, they should be able to get it from some third party and put it on
> > their system. Ideally I should be able to download it with my computer,
> > drop it into iTunes (or whatever the iPhone/Pad uses) and have it sync
> > to my iPad thus bypassing the Apple store. I do see it as being no
> > different then if my iPod had been limited to Apple approved music.
>
> there's nothing stopping you from writing such an app yourself or
> having it written for you.
>
So I can write an app and distribute it easily myself? So long as
that's possible I have no problem. Not that I have the skill or desire
to do so, but I know it's probably not worth it for most people to
create software only for personal use.

> the number of people who won't buy an ipad or ipod because they can't
> shake babies is *so* low that apple doesn't care if they buy something
> else. in fact, it's probably best that they do buy something else.

I wouldn't have bought 4 iPods over the years if it had been limited to
the iTunes store, and there's nothing in my library Apple would object
to. It's just the concept.

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
From: ZnU on
In article <2cnmq5dj7bme2umj22e0tmjuf9il5nav83(a)4ax.com>,
chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> ZnU wrote:
>
> > chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> ZnU wrote:
> >>
> >> >The reason the iPad lacks USB ports is because Apple has a
> >> >very specific vision for how computing should work, and dangling cables
> >> >off of your ultra-portable tablet doesn't fit into it. Nor do SD cards,
> >> >at least, I think, until Apple figures out a way to support storage
> >> >across multiple volumes without re-introducing a user-accessible file
> >> >system.
> >>
> >> Spoken like a True Believer.
> >
> >Huh? I didn't even necessarily say I *agreed* with this. I'm just
> >explaining Apple's actual motives.
>
> You would prefer "parroting the company line"?

I don't really understand what your game is here. You obviously don't
share Apple's motivations. Fine. But instead of simply acknowledging
that Apple has motivations you don't share, you seem to be rejecting the
idea that Apple could have these motivations. That would be fine as
well, if you were, say, giving examples of Apple actions that are
inconsistent with them. But you're not doing that either.

[snip]

> >As I've said before, the "fashion" comparison is off the mark, because
> >we're talking about functional design, not just making things look
> >pretty.
>
> Not in the two example I just gave. They are both technically
> inferior designs, justified by their aesthetic appeal. It is
> therefore proven that Apple will make this compromise.

It merely proves that when you try to do things differently, rather than
just doing what everyone else is doing, sometimes you get something
better, and occasionally you get something worse.

> >Apple didn't leave an SD card slot off the iPad because it would
> >have make it look uglier (it's a tiny almost invisible slot), but
>
> Note the shift from the central issue, USB ports, to the SD-card slot.
>
> >because of a strong opinion about how the device should be used. The
> >most apt comparison outside of the consumer electronics industry would
> >probably be to architecture, not fashion.
>
> But the "dangly USB cable" issue that you have raised *is* a
> fashion/aesthetic issue.

Having a device that you hold in your hands tethered to some other
device involves more than just "fashion" considerations.

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