No USB ports on Ipad!
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From: Kelsey Bjarnason on 27 Mar 2010 22:10 [snips] nospam wrote: >> > yet you want usb ports to plug in hard drives and printers and whatever >> > else. you can't even keep your own story straight. >> >> Right. Why would I not want that? > > so you want usb not because of any particular need for it, but just > because it's another item on a checklist. got it. Bzzt. Here's a trivial example: photos. Take the digital cam with you (because the iPad has no cam at all, let alone a decent one). Take pictures. Problem: cam's display is tiny. Simple solution: either plug the cam's USB cable into the netbook and transfer files that way, or pop out its SD card, pop it into the netbook, and pop in a new card. This makes it trivial to review the photos on a screen large enough to make out details, figuring out which shots to retake if need be, and so forth. So, let's see... plug the cam's USB cable into... oh, wait, you can't - no USB connector. Okay, fine, pop out its SD card and plug it into... oh, wait, you can't - no SD reader. Need we even mention trying to get data *off* the thing? A movie, say, which you can't play on your nice big screen TV, because there's no HDMI out, which you can't save to SD as it's downloading, for effectively instant transfer, and you can't copy over a speedy USB link, being forced, instead, to do it over a wireless shot? It's a great design - for selling accessories. Want the video out? Buy a docking station. Want the USB and SD support? Buy an adapter. From a perspective of raking in money, it's a grand design. From a perspective of being able to use it with anything else, not so much.
From: nospam on 27 Mar 2010 22:19 In article <l4p287-2bu.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So, your response to "where the hell is the bog-standard USB support?" > is to either buy a completely pointless, easy-to-lose adapter whcih has > no reason for existing, or to replace perfectly good existing equipment > with new equipment, just to work around Apple's inability to provide > bog-standard USB support. it's a new category of device, how can there be 'bog-standard usb support'?? the kindle doesn't have 'bog standard usb support', why is that not a problem? answer: because it's not apple. > Well, they have you trained well. "When in doubt, buy." who said i was buying one? > Meanwhile, the wife's netbook costs less, does more, and can actually > use the USB mouse, USB keyboard, USB cameras, USB external drive, USB > printer, SD cards and other such devices we already have. Oh, and it > has 160GB storage on board, not just 64GB or less. let us know how well the gps and compass work on that netbook. oh wait, there is no gps or compass. how about the $15/mo pay as you go data plan. nope, you need a data card with a contract plan that's much more expensive (at least here anyway). and be sure to make frequent backups because mechanical hard drives fail more often than flash memory. oh, and how long does your netbook run on batteries when playing music? the ipad can run for 140 hours. so much for 'does more.' and what exactly would you be doing with a usb mouse on a device that's designed for a touch user interface anyway? seriously, do people even think these things through before criticizing? obviously not. > And has a proper widescreen aspect ratio. which would make the ipad awkwardly long when in portrait orientation. a 4:3 aspect ratio is a reasonable compromise for the various types of content it will be displaying. > And lets you run apps from wherever, not just Apple's store - with > Apple's apparent penchant for banning apps for dubious reasons. they reject very little, mostly due to bugs. apparently, being able to purchase buggy software is important to some people. very few apps are rejected for dubious reasons, but those are the ones that make headlines.
From: nospam on 27 Mar 2010 22:30 In article <ucq287-l6v.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Here's a trivial example: photos. Take the digital cam with you > (because the iPad has no cam at all, let alone a decent one). i often have a camera with me, one that's *far* better than any cheapo cellphone type camera that would have fit in an ipad. plus, i can't imagine anything more awkward than holding up a 10" tablet to take a photo. > Take > pictures. Problem: cam's display is tiny. Simple solution: either plug > the cam's USB cable into the netbook and transfer files that way, or pop > out its SD card, pop it into the netbook, and pop in a new card. or pop the sd card into the sd adapter. not a big deal. even better, use the ipad as a wireless remote for the camera. there's already at least one app for the iphone that can do that and it's a virtual certainty that it will be updated for the ipad. > This makes it trivial to review the photos on a screen large enough to > make out details, figuring out which shots to retake if need be, and so > forth. or learn to get the photo right in the first place. how did people manage to get photos with film cameras? not to mention that just about everyone who takes photos and isn't a professional photographer doesn't bring along a netbook or laptop, so that entire scenario is moot. even pro photographers don't do that most of the time. > So, let's see... plug the cam's USB cable into... oh, wait, you can't - > no USB connector. > > Okay, fine, pop out its SD card and plug it into... oh, wait, you can't > - no SD reader. that's what the camera connector is for. more importantly, there are a lot more than just photographers who will be buying this. > Need we even mention trying to get data *off* the thing? A movie, say, > which you can't play on your nice big screen TV, because there's no HDMI > out, which you can't save to SD as it's downloading, for effectively > instant transfer, and you can't copy over a speedy USB link, being > forced, instead, to do it over a wireless shot? it will plug into a tv or vga projector, and why wouldn't you be downloading a movie on a home computer to watch on your home big screen tv? yet another stupid contrived scenario. > It's a great design - for selling accessories. Want the video out? Buy > a docking station. no need for a docking station, just use the included usb cable. > Want the USB and SD support? Buy an adapter. From > a perspective of raking in money, it's a grand design. From a > perspective of being able to use it with anything else, not so much. as i said, think out of the box.
From: JF Mezei on 27 Mar 2010 22:30 As it ever occured to you that the iPaD being released next week is to be version 1.0 and that next year. Apple is likely to adjust the product with features that the market has indicated it needs ? If you feel the need for a USB master, then don't buy an IpAd until Apple puts one on the iPAd. But please accept that there are plenty of people who still want an IpaD and don't need the features that you feel are important. Nobody is forcing you to buy one. Nobody is forcing you to setup your tent in front of the Apple Place of Worship (Apple store) days before April 3 just so you can have the privilege of entering the place of worship and kneel in front or an IpaD and druel and have wet dreams about caressing its sleek screen and aluminium casing. Even loyal members of the Church of Apple will step back and think about whether the ipAD will be useful to them in the current incarnation. And if many do buy the IPad and realise that it is missing features such as USB master plug, then there will be plenty of public complaints on the internet, and Apple is then likely to take a second look at such a feature. In other words, if Apple made a mistake when it ommitted a USB master, it will see sales quickly go down after the initial rush and it will react by adding that feature. Note that there are no widesread products out there that have both master and slave USB functionality and it will take some educating of people on that concept which, until know, has been transparenrt to the market because people have never connected stuff TO a mobile device, they connected mobile devices TO computers.
From: MuahMan on 27 Mar 2010 22:31
> > It's a great design - for selling accessories. Want the video out? Buy > a docking station. Want the USB and SD support? Buy an adapter. From > a perspective of raking in money, it's a grand design. From a > perspective of being able to use it with anything else, not so much. I believe most of the Apple fanbois are more concerned with Apple's bottom line than they are with the quality of their products. The most important thing to Apple users is the very fact they pay more for less. |